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Re: Theos-World Info about HPB & Alice Bailey

Oct 23, 2000 11:00 AM
by Eugene Carpenter

Thankyou.  Each person can decide this on their own and after checking the opinions of others.  I make no claimsfor Blavatsky or Bailey their work will stand or fall from the content therein.  I will say that I love them both and for different reasons and again HPB shows the reasonable academic community that Theosophy is a validand most valuable subject of study.  Bailey offers her work making no claims.  Others might.  Arguments might break out.  No big deal.  I'm happy to study both, harmonize any conflicts as best I can and proceed with Life.  My advice to anyone who wants it is to start with Esoteric Buddhism and go to Blavatsky's books and procede no further unless compelled by one's heart of hearts that Alice may have something valuable to add.  And better safe than sorry is a pretty good expression.  Itis best to be wary.  And you are right, I have tried and it is very hard to do Blavatsky and Bailey too.  I got into Bailey because of her book on esoteric healing.  I am qualified if anyone is, at the academic level, to say this is one hell of a great book and leave it at that.  I then read all of HPB's texts, several times, and have her collected writings because of my wish to understand and apply the book Esoteric Healing to my chosen field of medicine and pathology.  But, you know, I bet I only really understand about 30% of HPB to a reasonable degree and about 60% of Bailey except for Cosmic Fire and Rays and the Initiations(about 5 to 10%) I'm happy.  They both have given me a chance to start living a real life and I'm deeply grateful and probably unqualified to judge their qualifications.  Color me grateful.  And color me limited and struggling like all get out.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Info about HPB & Alice Bailey

no good Theosophist will accept anythingin metaphysics on authority only. That was HPBs way and it is consonant witha series of spritual teachers through the ages.
But by point was not that you waste yourtime by studying Bailey. It is your time. My point was only that I have found outthat the Bailey writings are not true Theosophy, but rather Theosophy misunderstood, if not faked. I only protest that Bailey is described as Theosophist or even as successor of HPB. You have all the right to study and to love Bailey. But if you take the right to call he a Theosophist, I tootake the right to call her a Pseudo-Theosophist.
Many beginners in Theosophy have neitherthe time nor the energy to study 15.000 Blavatsky pages and the Bailey stuff too and then come to own conclusions. You need not only time, silence but additional much discrimination power. My hints were for those people, not for those who can study and find out for themselves. I know of many people who have studied their whole life with all their will and heart power, 4 and five decades,but they cannot intellectually explain the difference between Bailey and Blavatskya lthough they feel it. For those are the comments. I don't force you to believe my comments.
Thankyou, Frank.  The Chinese have a saying, "Put your worst foot forward."
I think that people can look at all the bad things being said about Bailey
and then avoid looking at the material, especially Cosmic Fire and Rays and
the Intitiations and save themselves alot of "wasted" time.  It is wonderful
when one is intelligent enough to see, clearly, that a certain way is the
wrong way and warn others.  And it is important for others to heed these
warnings.  I've spent 25 years studying Blavatsky and Bailey and I've
sacrificed the traditional medical career in order to do this.  But.  You
know? It will be worth it when I discover, the hard way, that the Bailey
Books are false and all these years of love of them and of studying were
wasted.  Then I will have solidly learned, by my own choosen experience, of
which way not to go and can then come back to the true path no longer
tempted like those poor fools that still find in them(the 24 volumes of
A.A.B) a deeply attractive force in the world of sorrow and confusion.
There is the electric fire, the energy of the entire mental state of
consciousness.  There is the solar fire, the energy ofthe mental body of
each of us, and then there is the fire by friction, the energy of the
relationship  of electric fire and solar fire, wherein we learn the hard way
by many many lives of hard own experience.  One day we will all wise up.
"Those who know do least."


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