Theos-Talk Archives (October 2000 Message tt00152)

Todd,

This link that I recently found may or may not be disturbing or helpful to you
and others on this list -- that is up to each for him or herself. But
searching for the true nature of reality requires an open mind and nerves of
steel when our personal beliefs and our likes and dislikes are presented with
conflicting material. With this said, I want the reader to know that many
years ago, soon after running into Theosophy, I also ran into Alice Bailey's
books. I bought all of the books by both HPB and Alice Bailey and began my
studies, reading and studying them all. After a few years I found that the
Alice Bailey stuff, the actual teachings and philosophy itself, did not ring
true for me. Please understand that it was not the good-work aspect of her
teachings from a "Serving Humanity" point of view, just the overall
Philosophy. In the end I dropped the Alice Bailey material. It was only many
years later that, as said, I ran into this article, which touched upon most of
the things that did not ring true to me. So I present it here for everyone to
deal with it as they will:
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/HPBvsAB.html

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Todd Lorentz wrote:

> Hello,
> >
> >> According to C.W. Leadbeater, the place of the Christ in the White
> >Lodge
> >> was the place of a Boddhisatva, a human being near to the
> >perfection
> >of
> >> a Buddha. But, I donīt know if HPB said something about the
> >"grade"
> >of
> >> the Christ. Did she do it? What did she said?
> >>
> >> Shouldnīt we consider the Christ, in accordance to what he said
> >in
> >the
> >> Bible, as an Avatara?
>
> For interest's sake:
> Benjamin Creme's Master has stated that Maitreya is a 7th degree
> initiate and that the Buddha is an 8th degree initiate. Maitreya and the
> Buddha both appear at the Wesak festival where the energy from the Buddha
> (Will of God) is transferred to Maitreya and blended by Maitryea with the
> energy of Love which He embodies. The Buddha acts as an intermediary
> between the Hierarchy (with Maitreya at its Head in the Office of the
> Christ) and Shamballa.
> Maitreya is the "World Teacher" for this age and sits at the head of the
> Hierarchy as the "Eldest" of the *Human* family. The Buddhist's have His
> name right and expect the fifth Buddha, Maitreya, to return from the
> Tushita Heaven. While the Buddha is "more advanced", so to speak, than
> Maitreya, He evolved originally along the moon chain, whereas, Maitreya is
> an evolutionary product of the earth chain.
> Further, Jesus was a senior initiate (4th degree initiate) who was
> overshadowed by Maitreya for the last three years of his life - from the
> Baptism to the Crucifixion. As Alice Bailey recounts in "From Bethlehem to
> Calvary", the life of Jesus demonstrated (among other things) the five
> major initiations for Mankind. The fourth was demonstrated by Jesus in the
> "Great Renunciation" on the cross. It was Maitreya who further
> demonstrated the fifth - The Ascension - using the body of Jesus, and later
> spoke with the disciples saying to "look for the water bearer" (the age of
> Aquarius) and that He would return at the end of the Age (foretelling the
> return of Maitreya at this time).
>
> Todd
>