Theos-Talk Archives (September 2001 Message tt00112)

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From: Frank Reitemeyer <ringding@blinx.de>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World US Karma


> > I realize that you may have difficulty understanding this, but
there is
> > a difference between attacking military targets of people trying
to
> > destroy you, and attacking innocent civilians from a country doing
you
> > no harm. Laden, among others, were among a population in
Afghanistan
> > being systematically poisoned (literally) by the Soviet Union.
They
> > begged the United States for help, and the United States gave them
> > weapons and training to stop the Soviet's illegal weapons. Not to
blow
> > up buildings occupied by innocent civilians.
> >
> > Bart Lidofsky
>
> What? Where did I say that I don't know the difference between
attacking
> civilians or soldiers?
> On the contrary I wished just to express this as the US Army always
attacked
> and attacks civilians, including their own ("friendly fire" in
> Jewish-Masonic parlance).
> This was so in with the Yankees in the American Civil War, in WW I,
in WW
> II, in Vietnam, in the Gulf war, in Palestine and in Ex-Yugoslavia.

(DK) I wouldn't want you to slight the people of Korea, who we saved
from Communism. That is the one that happened while I was in the Navy.

> It is always the people who are suffering and never the background
powers.
> The reason why the WTC was attacked was that some thing that the
background
> powers who are responsible for the wars between nations for more and
more
> profit and golden luxury had there seat there. It may be wrong, but
it is
> believed by many who fear that one country after another is attacked
by
> financial tricks or open violence when they don't allow the
"American way of
> life" (social Darwinism, hypocrisy, attacking the weaker ones),
called
> democracy and freedom in Jewish-Masonic parlance in their own lands.
> During WW II Hitler was the chosen monster. But since 1945 the USA
initiated
> over 200 wars in the whole world to make the world "save for
democracy" as
> this pervert gangster Roosevelt once said and is hold in high
regards by
> many Americans even today. 200 wars since 1945 - and all without
Hitler.
> It seems that in modern times never before existed a country which
produced
> so much terror, hate and ignorance.

(DK) The catch phrases you are using give a clue to which long
disproven hate groups' literature you are reading. You should check
those stories better before believing them.

> Around 100 millions Red Indians were slaughtered by the US, around
20
> millions Africans were hanged on US trees, 120 millions in the
Soviet system
> which was invented and played from NY Wall Street. 30 millions
victims in WW
> I, 60 millions victims in WW II. Several more millions during all
conflicts
> USrael produces since 1945 to force all independent nations to
accept by
> free will the hidden control by the Wall Street.
> Now the US is preparing for WW III. Are not around 500 millions of
the last
> conflicts not enough?

(DK) I think your numbers are way off, (on the high side).

>
> No, of course not. HPB said: "There is the danger of black magic,
into which
> all the world, and especially America, is rushing as fast as it can
go." -
> quoted from Sylvia Cranston's bio., 3rd ed., p. 331.

(DK) You seem to have a better grasp of Theosophy than you do of
history, and of the English Language. You might consider sticking to
Theosophy.

>
> So all my sympathy goes to the victims and to the American people,
but not
> to the forces who took over the USA in 1913 and who try to enslave
the whole
> world on all costs. The TS was founded for Universal Brotherhood and
not for
> the tyranny of a single Brotherhood. Live and let live. Do not force
foreign
> cultures to have McDonalds if they do not want to have McDonalds.
Respect
> that other people have other ideals and that not for all people
money is
> highest God.

(DK) That is what capitalism is all about. If no one wants to eat at
McDonalds, they will go bankrupt, and close the store. There is a
McDonalds right around the corner. I never go there. But they wouldn't
be there if they weren't making money, after paying all their
employees their wages. Someone must be shopping there. They don't
spend money to run a store if they can't make a profit. They don't
twist people's arms to get them into the shop.

As to your reference to 1913, Some out there probably don't know that
in 1913, the election of U.S. Senators was changed from being
appointed by the governor of a state, to being elected by the people,
by popular vote; The federal income tax was initiated; and the
national bank, the Federal Reserve System was started. From the rest
of your rheoteric, I am assuming that it is the Federal Reserve that
you are referring to. And the background of the rest of it is the
"International Banker" (Conspiracy?) - The Rothchilds", the
Illuminadi, the Council on Foriegn Relations, - and a few others.

You must be reading some of the long discredited "muck-raking" books
that sold lots of copies, and made LOTS of money for the time, by Ida
Tarbel - of the period from about 1910 to 1920. History doesn't seem
to be a strong subject for you. As I recall, there were two or three
other famous Muck Raking books, but I forget their authors.

>
> If you really believe that Laden is able to train in a military
sense
> fighting pilots with a knowledge no civil pilot can have than you
are
> invited to believe all what your exoteric leaders tell the public.
To me it
> is Hollywood propaganda.
> Frank

(DK) The latest news is that all those Terrorists got their pilot's
training in Florida. Laden paid for it, but he didn't train a single
pilot.

Your English construction makes your communications hard to decipher.
Your sense of courtesy is also a bit lacking for the American taste.
Perhaps it is proper for your own country, but it is a bit harsh here
in the U.S.

Dennis