Theos-Talk Archives (November 2009 Message tt00209)

That is why some have started using the word "theosophical elders" as if
implying a  positive correlation between physical age and wisdom. God forbid
that dismisses some of the saviours of the world have been always been young
and this is going to be the case in the future.

How can a old body with a tired mind and tired body have real wisdom? Of
course an mind in a old body surely will have a lot street smartness which
is not to be confused with wisdom.

How about young Dugpas and Old Dugpas? We can start a discussion and even
some of them will join ( to make discussions very lively and timely) using
pseudonyms to hide their identities.

MKR

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:20 AM, <Drpsionic@aol.com> wrote:

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>
> To be a Theosophist and under 100 is unusual.
>
> Chuck the Heretic
>
> _www.charlescosimano.com
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> In a message dated 11/25/2009 5:19:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> mail@katinkahesselink.net <mail%40katinkahesselink.net> writes:
>
> I just meant that a well educated woman over 30 with a career of her own
> would not be expected to change her name on marriage (in The Netherlands)I
> just meant that a well educated woman over 30 with a career of her own
> would
> not be expected to change her name
>
> It's at the very least a branding thing: keeping the name you were known
> to have started out your career with just helps avoid confusion. My mother
> changed her professional name back to her maiden name, without divorcing my
>
> father, a few years ago. I think out of feminist ideals. Personally I would
>
> not think of changing my name on marriage.
>
> I've since been informed that this is a VERY Dutch perspective, not
> relevant for Brazil.
>
> I'm 35 - is that young even on an online site like this one?
>
> Katinka
>
> --- In
>
> _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_
> (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>) _, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info. As I recall, you mentioned about Jan Kind several
> > months ago when the website was taken down after discovery.
> >
> > Your comment about your age, most here on the list are generally older
> than
> > you are!! You are young.
> >
> > MKR
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Spirituality <mail@...>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know who S.T. Adelante is.
> > >
> > > I can tell you that Jan Kind is married to Terezinha. She took his
> name on
> > > their marriage, even though she is quite a professional and older than
> I am.
> > > He is Dutch. She is Brazilian. They married only a few years ago. I
> would
> > > guess 8 or 9 years ago.
> > >
> > > Katinka
> > >
> > > _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _http://www.katinkahhttp://wwhttp_
> (http://www.katinkahesselink.net/) _
> > > _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _http://www.overpeinhttp://ww_
> (http://www.overpeinzende.nl/) _
> > > _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _http://www.allconsihttp://www._
> (http://www.allconsidering.com/) _
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/)
> _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com<theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>)
> <theos-talk%theos-talk%<WBthe>, MKR
>
> > > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. When the website first came up, it was not public and when
> > > > someone found out about it, it was taken down. It was at a time
> > > > following the last International Election. It got resurrected
> > > > subsequently.
> > > >
> > > > MKR
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@> wrote:
> > > > > In ULT publications, and lectures, it's a policy not to sign the
> > > > > articles or give out the names of the lecturers -- since theosophy
> > > > > teachings must stand on their own, and there should be no reliance
> on
> > > > > the authority, reputation or expertise of the writer/speaker. Ãâ
> If the
> > >
> > > > > unknown writer's or lecturer's identity is a mystery, then his
> > > > > writings or talks can be evaluated on its content alone, not on his
> > > > > name or reputation.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the case of Adelante, we might assume he may be following those
> > > > > rules and remaining anonymous -- which is in total accord with
> HPB's
> > > > > teachings, and was used by William Q. Judge in many of his
> stories,
> > > > > lectures and articles. Ãâ His real name only appeared on such works
> > >
> > > > > after he died, when students published his writings and lectures.
> > > > > Although, he did use his name on most of his books.
> > > > >
> > > > > Judging by his postings, it's apparent that S.T. Adelante is a
> > > > > student of HPB, and respects those closest to her original
> teachings
> > > > > and foundation of the original TS in America.
> > > > >
> > > > > LHM.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 22, 2009, at 11/22/092:26 AM, MKR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Who is this mysterious S T Adelante?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Some months ago, I received a email from one S T Adelante who is
> the
> > > > >> administrator of a quaint website which is supposed to address
> > > > >> theosophyÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs future. In response I sent a email part of
> which I
> > > quote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ÃÂÃâÂÃ"I am not familiar with your name. I see you have an UK
> email
> > > address
> > >
> > > > >> and I suppose you are from that region. Which Lodge do you belong
> to
> > > > >> and what are your specific areas of interest? Do you hold any
> offices
> > > > >> in the TS?ÃÂÃâÂ
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Adelante has not responded till today. I just read in a short
> article
> > > > >> on Internet regarding this personÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs identity. The article
> says
> > > ÃÂÃâÂÃ"The
> > >
> > > > >> persons in charge of Theosophy Forward do not say in their
> website who
> > > > >> they are, contrary to what is usual. The website manager uses the
> > > > >> pseudonym ÃÂÃâÂÃ"ST AdelanteÃÂÃâ , and when some people asked
> for the
> > > identity
> > > > >> of the responsible of the website, the answer was: ÃÂÃâÂÃ"It is
> not
> > > > >> necessary to know the people who are in chargeÃÂÃâ ÃÂÃâÂÃ"ÃÂÃâÂ
> .
> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This is really strange coming from anyone interested in
> theosophy. The
> > > > >> number of active theosophists worldwide is quite minuscule. Hence
> it
> > > > >> is impossible to hide oneÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs identity unless they use a
> pseudonym. In
> > >
> > > > >> the Internet forums, in the past, some theosophists have used
> > > > >> pseudonyms to avoid taking personal responsibility for their
> > > > >> statements in Internet. But, in time, their identities were
> discovered
> > > > >> to their public embarrassment.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I did some research about the website. It is registered with one
> Hans
> > > > >> Kind of Kind Internet Services in Netherland as the administrative
> > > > >> contact. Late last year, I got a confirmation that one Jan
> Nicolaas
> > > > >> Kind was involved in it. Googling Kind and theosophy, one comes
> across
> > > > >> Terezinha Franca Kind who is a General Council member and one of
> the
> > > > >> nominators of John Algeo in the last Presidential Election. It is
> my
> > > > >> understanding that he and Terezinha are related.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The mystery is deepening. We do not know if Adelante is the
> p_seudonym
>
> > > > >> of Jan or Terezinha or that of some one else who dares not put
> his/her
> > > > >> own real name. It is not uncommon for some people to protect
> their
> > > > >> good name to operate either under a pseudonym or use others as a
> > > > >> front. Any way one day truth will come out and then we can all
> come to
> > > > >> our own conclusions.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyone knows more about this mysterious Adelante???
> > > > >>
> > > > >> MKR
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is no religion higher than truth
> > > > >>
> > > > >> visit www.theosophy. vi
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