Theos-Talk Archives (November 2009 Message tt00205)

To be a Theosophist and under 100 is unusual.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
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In a message dated 11/25/2009 5:19:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
mail@katinkahesselink.net writes:

 
 
 
I just meant that a well educated woman over 30 with a career of her own  
would not be expected to change her name on marriage (in The  Netherlands)I 
just meant that a well educated woman over 30 with a career of her own  would 
not be expected to change her name

It's at the  very least a branding thing: keeping the name you were known 
to have started  out your career with just helps avoid confusion. My mother 
changed her  professional name back to her maiden name, without divorcing my 
father, a few  years ago. I think out of feminist ideals. Personally I would 
not think of  changing my name on marriage. 

I've since been informed that this is a  VERY Dutch perspective, not 
relevant for Brazil. 

I'm 35 - is that  young even on an online site like this one? 

Katinka

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(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) _, MKR <mkr777@...>  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. As I recall, you mentioned about  Jan Kind several
> months ago when the website was taken down after  discovery.
> 
> Your comment about your age, most here on the list  are generally older 
than
> you are!! You are young.
> 
>  MKR
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Spirituality  <mail@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I don't  know who S.T. Adelante is.
> >
> > I can tell you that Jan  Kind is married to Terezinha. She took his 
name on
> > their  marriage, even though she is quite a professional and older than 
I am.
>  > He is Dutch. She is Brazilian. They married only a few years ago. I  
would
> > guess 8 or 9 years ago.
> >
> >  Katinka
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_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)   <theos-talk%theos-talk%<WBthe>, MKR
> >  <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks. When the  website first came up, it was not public and when
> > > someone  found out about it, it was taken down. It was at a time
> > >  following the last International Election. It got resurrected
> >  > subsequently.
> > >
> > > MKR
> >  >
> > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Leon Maurer  <leonmaurer@> wrote:
> > > > In ULT publications,  and lectures, it's a policy not to sign the
> > > > articles or  give out the names of the lecturers -- since theosophy
> > > >  teachings must stand on their own, and there should be no reliance 
on
>  > > > the authority, reputation or expertise of the writer/speaker.  Ãâ 
If the
> >
> > > > unknown writer's or lecturer's  identity is a mystery, then his
> > > > writings or talks can  be evaluated on its content alone, not on his
> > > > name or  reputation.
> > > >
> > > > In the case of  Adelante, we might assume he may be following those
> > > >  rules and remaining anonymous -- which is in total accord with 
HPB's
>  > > > teachings, and was used by William Q. Judge in many of his  
stories,
> > > > lectures and articles. Ãâ His real name only  appeared on such works
> >
> > > > after he died, when  students published his writings and lectures.
> > > > Although,  he did use his name on most of his books.
> > > >
> >  > > Judging by his postings, it's apparent that S.T. Adelante is  a
> > > > student of HPB, and respects those closest to her  original 
teachings
> > > > and foundation of the original TS in  America.
> > > >
> > > > LHM.
> > >  >
> > > > On Nov 22, 2009, at 11/22/092:26 AM, MKR  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Who is this  mysterious S T Adelante?
> > > >>
> > > >>  Some months ago, I received a email from one S T Adelante who is 
the
>  > > >> administrator of a quaint website which is supposed to  address
> > > >> theosophyÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs future. In response I  sent a email part of 
which I
> > quote:
> > >  >>
> > > >> ÃÂÃâÂÃ"I am not familiar with your name. I  see you have an UK 
email
> > address
> >
> > >  >> and I suppose you are from that region. Which Lodge do you belong 
 to
> > > >> and what are your specific areas of interest? Do  you hold any 
offices
> > > >> in the TS?ÃÂÃâÂ
> >  > >>
> > > >> Adelante has not responded till  today. I just read in a short 
article
> > > >> on Internet  regarding this personÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs identity. The article 
says
> >  ÃÂÃâÂÃ"The
> >
> > > >> persons in charge of  Theosophy Forward do not say in their 
website who
> > > >>  they are, contrary to what is usual. The website manager uses the
> >  > >> pseudonym ÃÂÃâÂÃ"ST AdelanteÃÂÃâ , and when some people asked  
for the
> > identity
> > > >> of the responsible of  the website, the answer was: ÃÂÃâÂÃ"It is 
not
> > > >>  necessary to know the people who are in chargeÃÂÃâ ÃÂÃâÂÃ"ÃÂÃâ 
.
>  >
> > > >>
> > > >> This is really  strange coming from anyone interested in 
theosophy. The
> > >  >> number of active theosophists worldwide is quite minuscule. Hence 
 it
> > > >> is impossible to hide oneÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs identity  unless they use a 
pseudonym. In
> >
> > > >> the  Internet forums, in the past, some theosophists have used
> > >  >> pseudonyms to avoid taking personal responsibility for their
>  > > >> statements in Internet. But, in time, their identities were  
discovered
> > > >> to their public embarrassment.
>  > > >>
> > > >> I did some research about the  website. It is registered with one 
Hans
> > > >> Kind of  Kind Internet Services in Netherland as the administrative
> > >  >> contact. Late last year, I got a confirmation that one Jan  
Nicolaas
> > > >> Kind was involved in it. Googling Kind and  theosophy, one comes 
across
> > > >> Terezinha Franca Kind  who is a General Council member and one of 
the
> > > >>  nominators of John Algeo in the last Presidential Election. It is 
my
>  > > >> understanding that he and Terezinha are related.
>  > > >>
> > > >> The mystery is deepening. We do  not know if Adelante is the 
p_seudonym
> > > >> of Jan or  Terezinha or that of some one else who dares not put 
his/her
> > >  >> own real name. It is not uncommon for some people to protect  
their
> > > >> good name to operate either under a pseudonym  or use others as a
> > > >> front. Any way one day truth  will come out and then we can all 
come to
> > > >> our own  conclusions.
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyone  knows more about this mysterious Adelante???
> > >  >>
> > > >> MKR
> > > >>
>  > > >> There is no religion higher than truth
> > >  >>
> > > >> visit www.theosophy. vi
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