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Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!

Jul 10, 2009 08:23 PM
by Cass Silva


yeah agree - but one had to speak hindi or greek to read it!!

Cass


>
>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:21:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>The information was available long before HPB. We know the Romans used it.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/9/2009 6:57:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
>
>it came out of the bag - about the same time HPB was checking in to 
>devachan
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) " 
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 
>>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 12:27:33 AM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>It never was in the bag to begin with.
>>
>>Chuck the heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/9/2009 12:11:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>
>>Yep, that is what I wrote a couple of weeks ago. The cat was let out of 
>>the bag 50 years ago.
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:35:59 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Really, none of this stuff is a great secret. All the techniques have 
>>>been published long ago.
>>>
>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 7/8/2009 9:04:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>>
>>>When Anand talks about a democracy what he is really wanting is a benign 
>>>dictator (and preferably one who has his ear) If the net goes down we 
>>would 
>>>either revert back to weekly meetings, walk-ins off the street or for us 
>>>oldies, study autonomously and communicate via snail mail or fax.
>>>
>>>There is no theosophical reason why the Masters and their disciples 
>could 
>>>not work through the astral. I read that way back in 1888, KH mentioned 
>>in 
>>>one of his letters that he had far more important work to do regarding 
>>>China than spending wasted hours trying to convince Hume of one thing or 
>
>>>another.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_ 
>>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global- <WBR>theos>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:38:46 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now, if the central Server starts to blush too much because it gets 
>>>infected with a non-theosophical worm with a red hat, I think we will 
>>have to 
>>>modify the situation or at least clean some of the mirrors so to avoid 
>>the 
>>>"flu" from sprading so to speak. :-)
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com 
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:19 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>>
>>>>I'm blushing.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 7/8/2009 10:11:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>>monad_monad_ monad@yahoo. com writes:
>>>>
>>>>This description of the magic mirrors may sound a little far out to 
>some 
>>
>>>>but it describes in a somewhat cryptic and simplified way how the 
>>>advanced 
>>>>members of a spiritual group telepathically work on the inner planes 
>>>>amongst themselves. In this way they bypass all this personality 
>>>crap-o-la. 
>>>>Highly developed minds that may have left there bodies and are no 
>longer 
>>>>hindered by time and space as we understand it. 
>>>>In fact the net and the modern information highway may be a stepped 
>down 
>>>>version of that work that will require many cycles to develop and 
>>>perfect. 
>>>>Then theosophy will not be here or there but EVERYWHERE. Chuck who's 
>>>heresy 
>>>>is more in the nature of a series of zen parables is right on in so 
>much 
>>>of 
>>>>what he posts.
>>>>No one with any real background in Theosophical studies can take what 
>is 
>>>>often posted on a number of these different Theosophical websites 
>>>seriously.
>>>>If I get the drift of Chucks many humorous and satirical post there is 
>>>>a lot of wisdom in just going to the source and bypassing all this 
>>>nonsense 
>>>>that tries to pass for serious Theosophy. In fact this description of 
>>>>Chucks outline of a Master computer and all the connecting mirrors may 
>>>>parallel and be a good description of how the Masters work with there 
>>>advanced 
>>>>students or disciples in the ether's.
>>>>Keep up the good work Chuck your heresy keeps the world alive and its 
>>>many 
>>>>children from following asleep and going completely comatose.
>>>>Blessings Duane.
>>>>
>>>>_________ _________ <WBR<WBR> _ <WBR>_ ______
>>>>From: "_Augoeides- 222@Augoeides- 2_ (mailto:Augoeides- From: 
>>"_Augoeides- 
>>>2
>>>><_Augoeides- 222@Augoeides- 2_ (mailto:Augoeides- _Augoeides- 22>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
>>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:16:01 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical Autonomy
>>>>
>>>>MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALLLLL WHO IS THE THEOSOPHIST BEST OF 
>>>>ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL ??????????? 
>>>>
>>>>(Large cracking sound---followed by the sound of tinkling glass hitting 
>>>>the floor!!!! Lol!) 
>>>>
>>>>John 
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com 
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:39:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical 
>Autonomy 
>>>>
>>>>Ok, this is going to get a bit off the wall sounding but it has been 
>>done 
>>>>in occult history. Let us take the scenario that the internet goes down 
>>>>and stays down, as unlikely as it seems. We have a method of 
>>>communication 
>>>>that is virtually unstoppable- -the old, reliable magic mirror. 
>>>>
>>>>Using the net as a good analogy to how it would work, you have a 
>storage 
>>>>field, a big thoughtform if you will, that acts as the central server. 
>>>The 
>>>>mirrors are all linked to the server by the will of their operators. 
>So, 
>>>>whenever anyone wants to get a message out to one's fellow 
>Theosophists, 
>>>>one 
>>>>need only meditate on the message and put it into his mirror. It then 
>>>goes 
>>>>automatically to the server and out to everyone else through their 
>>>>mirrors. 
>>>>
>>>>Sounds weird? Read the description of the Shrine Room HPB had built in 
>>>>the London Lodge. They were working with some interesting stuff back 
>>>then. 
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the Heretic 
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>>robert.b. robert.b. <WBR>macdonal robert.b< WBR< WBR
>>>>
>>>>A few more thoughts . . . 
>>>>
>>>>This discussion seems to be getting hung up on the theory that a truly 
>>>>democratic Society would solve our problems, or it is argued on the 
>>other 
>>>>hand 
>>>>that we do not even need a Society, theosophy has been disseminated in 
>>>the 
>>>>West, and we need only study what we all have access to. It is argued 
>>>that 
>>>>the internet can be the tie that binds us all. 
>>>>
>>>>Theosophy does not exist in a vacuum, it is a reflection of the world 
>>>>around us and we again are reflected into that world. Chuck pointed out 
>>>>one of 
>>>>the deeper truths, that being, knowledge gets reflected into the ether 
>>>and 
>>>>then over time is reflected back into us, informing us all. I have 
>often 
>>>>thought, that if the TS could discover a new way to govern itself, then 
>>>>perhaps this would signal that the world is on the verge of doing the 
>>>>same. 
>>>>Theosophy was introduced to the West in order to lead thought in new 
>>>>directions 
>>>>and have that thought evolve our institutions. In order to do that we 
>>>>don't have to be noticed by everyone, if Chuck is right, as soon as we 
>>>>change 
>>>>that will seed the crystal, if you like, of change all around us. 
>>>>
>>>>Cass has brought up the whole issue of autonomy. Right now, if you are 
>>>not 
>>>>surrounded by a like minded group of theosophists who are going to 
>allow 
>>>>you to develop along lines you feel are right, the best thing to do is 
>>>>study 
>>>>alone, and perhaps interact with others half-way around the globe on 
>the 
>>>>internet and do the best you can in these spiritually dark times. Who 
>>can 
>>>>argue with that? We are talking about change here and it certainly does 
>
>>>>not 
>>>>seem like people, theosophists included, are open to real change. 
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand Anand is suggesting that a true democracy will solve 
>>>all 
>>>>of our problems. Democracy is the silver bullet that will slay the 
>beast 
>>>>of totalitarianism. But what is it and how is it going to work? Some 
>say 
>>>>that the TS began as the most democratic of institutions but look at it 
>>>>now. 
>>>>If India, Pakistan, and other developing Nations are allowed to achieve 
>>>>economic power, then they will learn that democracy is no protection. 
>>Ask 
>>>>any 
>>>>educated individual from the West about democracy, and if they think 
>>>about 
>>>>it for even a few moments, they will have to admit that in any election 
>>>>they 
>>>>have ever voted in, they invariably have voted for the individual that 
>>>>they have disliked the least. Populist leaders like Obama are rare, and 
>
>>>>when 
>>>>they do achieve power their voting records are no less corrupt than all 
>>>>the 
>>>>rest. It is not enough to claim that democracy is the panacea, we need 
>>to 
>>>>know the details. 
>>>>
>>>>How can a Society remain democratic when it invariably has to struggle 
>>>>with an uneducated and apathetic electorate. Who in this group knew 
>>>>anything 
>>>>about the by-laws of the Society to which they belong before this last 
>>>>election? Those who do not belong to the Adyar Society, who among you 
>>>know 
>>>>anything about your Societies' bylaws now? Democracy is nothing without 
>>>an 
>>>>informed and engaged electorate. The problem is not about 
>re-instituting 
>>>>democracy, it is about re-inventing the electorate, how do you do that? 
>
>>>>Again, the 
>>>>answer Cass gives seems to be ringing loud now, you wait until they are 
>>>>born. But what if they are out there now, waiting for a form of 
>>>government 
>>>>that will inform them and engage them. What would the nature of that 
>>>>government be? Change has never come before the idea, how could it? 
>>>>
>>>>What happens if governments take the internet away tomorrow, or limit 
>it 
>>>>in such ways that you dare not speak your mind or relate to others of 
>>>>similar mind? Then where will the TS be? We will be stuck with a TS 
>>>>leadership 
>>>>that is probably a reflection of the government leaders that took away 
>>>the 
>>>>internet or we will be totally autonomous reading and studying 
>theosophy 
>>>>under 
>>>>a dim lamp in a dark basement. The governments will still be 
>democratic, 
>>>>you can either vote for this tool of the unseen power or that tool of 
>>the 
>>>>unseen power. 
>>>>
>>>>I suspect it is important that theosophists think about these 
>questions, 
>>
>>>>because if we can figure them out, perhaps humanity would be ready to 
>>>>follow. 
>>>>
>>>>Robert Bruce 
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