Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
Jul 10, 2009 11:40 PM
by Drpsionic
Or Latin, or any number of other languages common at the time.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/10/2009 10:24:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
yeah agree - but one had to speak hindi or greek to read it!!
Cass
>
>From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) "
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)
>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:21:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>
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>
>
>
>The information was available long before HPB. We know the Romans used it.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/9/2009 6:57:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>yahoo.
>
>it came out of the bag - about the same time HPB was checking in to
>devachan
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: "_Drpsionic@From: "_Drpsionic@<WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
><_Drpsionic@_Drpsionic@<WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@<WB>
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 12:27:33 AM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>It never was in the bag to begin with.
>>
>>Chuck the heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/9/2009 12:11:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>
>>Yep, that is what I wrote a couple of weeks ago. The cat was let out of
>>the bag 50 years ago.
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
yahoog
>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:35:59 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Really, none of this stuff is a great secret. All the techniques have
>>>been published long ago.
>>>
>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 7/8/2009 9:04:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>>
>>>When Anand talks about a democracy what he is really wanting is a
benign
>>>dictator (and preferably one who has his ear) If the net goes down we
>>would
>>>either revert back to weekly meetings, walk-ins off the street or for
us
>>>oldies, study autonomously and communicate via snail mail or fax.
>>>
>>>There is no theosophical reason why the Masters and their disciples
>could
>>>not work through the astral. I read that way back in 1888, KH mentioned
>>in
>>>one of his letters that he had far more important work to do regarding
>>>China than spending wasted hours trying to convince Hume of one thing
or
>
>>>another.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_
>>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global- <WBR>theos>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:38:46 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now, if the central Server starts to blush too much because it gets
>>>infected with a non-theosophical worm with a red hat, I think we will
>>have to
>>>modify the situation or at least clean some of the mirrors so to avoid
>>the
>>>"flu" from sprading so to speak. :-)
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:19 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>>
>>>>I'm blushing.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 7/8/2009 10:11:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>monad_monad_ monad@yahoo. com writes:
>>>>
>>>>This description of the magic mirrors may sound a little far out to
>some
>>
>>>>but it describes in a somewhat cryptic and simplified way how the
>>>advanced
>>>>members of a spiritual group telepathically work on the inner planes
>>>>amongst themselves. In this way they bypass all this personality
>>>crap-o-la.
>>>>Highly developed minds that may have left there bodies and are no
>longer
>>>>hindered by time and space as we understand it.
>>>>In fact the net and the modern information highway may be a stepped
>down
>>>>version of that work that will require many cycles to develop and
>>>perfect.
>>>>Then theosophy will not be here or there but EVERYWHERE. Chuck who's
>>>heresy
>>>>is more in the nature of a series of zen parables is right on in so
>much
>>>of
>>>>what he posts.
>>>>No one with any real background in Theosophical studies can take what
>is
>>>>often posted on a number of these different Theosophical websites
>>>seriously.
>>>>If I get the drift of Chucks many humorous and satirical post there is
>>>>a lot of wisdom in just going to the source and bypassing all this
>>>nonsense
>>>>that tries to pass for serious Theosophy. In fact this description of
>>>>Chucks outline of a Master computer and all the connecting mirrors may
>>>>parallel and be a good description of how the Masters work with there
>>>advanced
>>>>students or disciples in the ether's.
>>>>Keep up the good work Chuck your heresy keeps the world alive and its
>>>many
>>>>children from following asleep and going completely comatose.
>>>>Blessings Duane.
>>>>
>>>>________________<WBR>_ _<WBR<WBR> _ <WBR>_ ______
>>>>From: "_Augoeides- 222@Augoeides- 2_ (mailto:Augoeides- From:
>>"_Augoeides-
>>>2
>>>><_Augoeides- 222@Augoeides- 2_ (mailto:Augoeides- _Augoeides- 22>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
>>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:16:01 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical
Autonomy
>>>>
>>>>MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALLLLL WHO IS THE THEOSOPHIST BEST OF
>>>>ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL ???????????
>>>>
>>>>(Large cracking sound---followed by the sound of tinkling glass
hitting
>>>>the floor!!!! Lol!)
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:39:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical
>Autonomy
>>>>
>>>>Ok, this is going to get a bit off the wall sounding but it has been
>>done
>>>>in occult history. Let us take the scenario that the internet goes
down
>>>>and stays down, as unlikely as it seems. We have a method of
>>>communication
>>>>that is virtually unstoppable- -the old, reliable magic mirror.
>>>>
>>>>Using the net as a good analogy to how it would work, you have a
>storage
>>>>field, a big thoughtform if you will, that acts as the central server.
>>>The
>>>>mirrors are all linked to the server by the will of their operators.
>So,
>>>>whenever anyone wants to get a message out to one's fellow
>Theosophists,
>>>>one
>>>>need only meditate on the message and put it into his mirror. It then
>>>goes
>>>>automatically to the server and out to everyone else through their
>>>>mirrors.
>>>>
>>>>Sounds weird? Read the description of the Shrine Room HPB had built in
>>>>the London Lodge. They were working with some interesting stuff back
>>>then.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>robert.b. robert.b. <WBR>macdonal robert.b< WBR< WBR
>>>>
>>>>A few more thoughts . . .
>>>>
>>>>This discussion seems to be getting hung up on the theory that a truly
>>>>democratic Society would solve our problems, or it is argued on the
>>other
>>>>hand
>>>>that we do not even need a Society, theosophy has been disseminated in
>>>the
>>>>West, and we need only study what we all have access to. It is argued
>>>that
>>>>the internet can be the tie that binds us all.
>>>>
>>>>Theosophy does not exist in a vacuum, it is a reflection of the world
>>>>around us and we again are reflected into that world. Chuck pointed
out
>>>>one of
>>>>the deeper truths, that being, knowledge gets reflected into the ether
>>>and
>>>>then over time is reflected back into us, informing us all. I have
>often
>>>>thought, that if the TS could discover a new way to govern itself,
then
>>>>perhaps this would signal that the world is on the verge of doing the
>>>>same.
>>>>Theosophy was introduced to the West in order to lead thought in new
>>>>directions
>>>>and have that thought evolve our institutions. In order to do that we
>>>>don't have to be noticed by everyone, if Chuck is right, as soon as we
>>>>change
>>>>that will seed the crystal, if you like, of change all around us.
>>>>
>>>>Cass has brought up the whole issue of autonomy. Right now, if you are
>>>not
>>>>surrounded by a like minded group of theosophists who are going to
>allow
>>>>you to develop along lines you feel are right, the best thing to do is
>>>>study
>>>>alone, and perhaps interact with others half-way around the globe on
>the
>>>>internet and do the best you can in these spiritually dark times. Who
>>can
>>>>argue with that? We are talking about change here and it certainly
does
>
>>>>not
>>>>seem like people, theosophists included, are open to real change.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand Anand is suggesting that a true democracy will solve
>>>all
>>>>of our problems. Democracy is the silver bullet that will slay the
>beast
>>>>of totalitarianism. But what is it and how is it going to work? Some
>say
>>>>that the TS began as the most democratic of institutions but look at
it
>>>>now.
>>>>If India, Pakistan, and other developing Nations are allowed to
achieve
>>>>economic power, then they will learn that democracy is no protection.
>>Ask
>>>>any
>>>>educated individual from the West about democracy, and if they think
>>>about
>>>>it for even a few moments, they will have to admit that in any
election
>>>>they
>>>>have ever voted in, they invariably have voted for the individual that
>>>>they have disliked the least. Populist leaders like Obama are rare,
and
>
>>>>when
>>>>they do achieve power their voting records are no less corrupt than
all
>>>>the
>>>>rest. It is not enough to claim that democracy is the panacea, we need
>>to
>>>>know the details.
>>>>
>>>>How can a Society remain democratic when it invariably has to struggle
>>>>with an uneducated and apathetic electorate. Who in this group knew
>>>>anything
>>>>about the by-laws of the Society to which they belong before this last
>>>>election? Those who do not belong to the Adyar Society, who among you
>>>know
>>>>anything about your Societies' bylaws now? Democracy is nothing
without
>>>an
>>>>informed and engaged electorate. The problem is not about
>re-instituting
>>>>democracy, it is about re-inventing the electorate, how do you do
that?
>
>>>>Again, the
>>>>answer Cass gives seems to be ringing loud now, you wait until they
are
>>>>born. But what if they are out there now, waiting for a form of
>>>government
>>>>that will inform them and engage them. What would the nature of that
>>>>government be? Change has never come before the idea, how could it?
>>>>
>>>>What happens if governments take the internet away tomorrow, or limit
>it
>>>>in such ways that you dare not speak your mind or relate to others of
>>>>similar mind? Then where will the TS be? We will be stuck with a TS
>>>>leadership
>>>>that is probably a reflection of the government leaders that took away
>>>the
>>>>internet or we will be totally autonomous reading and studying
>theosophy
>>>>under
>>>>a dim lamp in a dark basement. The governments will still be
>democratic,
>>>>you can either vote for this tool of the unseen power or that tool of
>>the
>>>>unseen power.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect it is important that theosophists think about these
>questions,
>>
>>>>because if we can figure them out, perhaps humanity would be ready to
>>>>follow.
>>>>
>>>>Robert Bruce
>>>>
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