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Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!

Jul 10, 2009 11:40 PM
by Drpsionic


Or Latin, or any number of other languages common at the time.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/10/2009 10:24:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


yeah agree - but one had to speak hindi or greek to read  it!!

Cass

>
>From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) " 
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent:  Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:21:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic  mirrors!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>The information was  available long before HPB. We know the Romans used it.
>
>Chuck  the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/9/2009 6:57:36 P.M.  Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>yahoo.
>
>it came out of the bag - about the same time HPB was  checking in to  
>devachan
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From:  "_Drpsionic@From:  "_Drpsionic@<WBR>aFrom:  "_Drps
><_Drpsionic@_Drpsionic@<WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@<WB>
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>Sent: Friday, 10 July,  2009 12:27:33 AM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic  mirrors!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>It  never was in the bag to begin with.
>>
>>Chuck the  heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/9/2009  12:11:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@  <WBR>ya
>>
>>Yep, that is what I wrote a couple of  weeks ago. The cat was let out of 
>>the bag 50 years  ago.
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From:  "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom:  "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_  (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
yahoog
>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July,  2009 2:35:59 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic  mirrors!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Really,  none of this stuff is a great secret. All the techniques have  
>>>been published long ago.
>>>
>>>Chuck  the Heretic
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated  7/8/2009 9:04:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>silva_cass@  silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>>
>>>When Anand talks  about a democracy what he is really wanting is a 
benign  
>>>dictator (and preferably one who has his ear) If the net goes  down we 
>>would 
>>>either revert back to weekly  meetings, walk-ins off the street or for 
us 
>>>oldies, study  autonomously and communicate via snail mail or  fax.
>>>
>>>There is no theosophical reason why the  Masters and their disciples 
>could 
>>>not work through the  astral. I read that way back in 1888, KH mentioned 
>>in  
>>>one of his letters that he had far more important work to do  regarding 
>>>China than spending wasted hours trying to convince  Hume of one thing 
or  
>
>>>another.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From:  Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_  
>>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global-  <WBR>theos>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
>yahoog
>>>>Sent:  Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:38:46 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World  Chucks magic  mirrors!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now,  if the central Server starts to blush too much because it gets  
>>>infected with a non-theosophical worm with a red hat, I think  we will 
>>have to 
>>>modify the situation or at least  clean some of the mirrors so to avoid 
>>the 
>>>"flu"  from sprading so to speak. :-)
>>>>
>>>>-----  Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com  
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>>Sent:  Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:19 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World  Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>>
>>>>I'm  blushing.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the  Heretic
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 7/8/2009  10:11:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>>monad_monad_  monad@yahoo. com writes:
>>>>
>>>>This  description of the magic mirrors may sound a little far out to 
>some  
>>
>>>>but it describes in a somewhat cryptic and  simplified way how the 
>>>advanced 
>>>>members of  a spiritual group telepathically work on the inner planes  
>>>>amongst themselves. In this way they bypass all this  personality 
>>>crap-o-la. 
>>>>Highly developed  minds that may have left there bodies and are no 
>longer  
>>>>hindered by time and space as we understand it.  
>>>>In fact the net and the modern information highway may be  a stepped 
>down 
>>>>version of that work that will  require many cycles to develop and 
>>>perfect.  
>>>>Then theosophy will not be here or there but EVERYWHERE.  Chuck who's 
>>>heresy 
>>>>is more in the nature  of a series of zen parables is right on in so 
>much 
>>>of  
>>>>what he posts.
>>>>No one with any real  background in Theosophical studies can take what 
>is  
>>>>often posted on a number of these different Theosophical  websites 
>>>seriously.
>>>>If I get the drift of  Chucks many humorous and satirical post there is 
>>>>a lot of  wisdom in just going to the source and bypassing all this  
>>>nonsense 
>>>>that tries to pass for serious  Theosophy. In fact this description of 
>>>>Chucks outline of a  Master computer and all the connecting mirrors may 
 
>>>>parallel and be a good description of how the Masters work  with there 
>>>advanced 
>>>>students or disciples  in the ether's.
>>>>Keep up the good work Chuck your heresy  keeps the world alive and its 
>>>many  
>>>>children from following asleep and going completely  comatose.
>>>>Blessings  Duane.
>>>>
>>>>________________<WBR>_ _<WBR<WBR> _ <WBR>_ ______
>>>>From: "_Augoeides-  222@Augoeides- 2_ (mailto:Augoeides- From: 
>>"_Augoeides-  
>>>2
>>>><_Augoeides- 222@Augoeides- 2_  (mailto:Augoeides- _Augoeides- 22>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@  yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@  
>>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:16:01  AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs  Theosophical 
Autonomy
>>>>
>>>>MIRROR MIRROR ON  THE WALLLLL WHO IS THE THEOSOPHIST BEST OF 
>>>>ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL  ??????????? 
>>>>
>>>>(Large cracking  sound---followed by the sound of tinkling glass 
hitting  
>>>>the floor!!!! Lol!)  
>>>>
>>>>John 
>>>>-----  Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com  
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>>Sent:  Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:39:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific  
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs  Theosophical 
>Autonomy 
>>>>
>>>>Ok, this  is going to get a bit off the wall sounding but it has been 
>>done  
>>>>in occult history. Let us take the scenario that the  internet goes 
down 
>>>>and stays down, as unlikely as it  seems. We have a method of 
>>>communication  
>>>>that is virtually unstoppable- -the old, reliable magic  mirror. 
>>>>
>>>>Using the net as a good  analogy to how it would work, you have a 
>storage  
>>>>field, a big thoughtform if you will, that acts as the  central server. 
>>>The 
>>>>mirrors are all linked  to the server by the will of their operators. 
>So,  
>>>>whenever anyone wants to get a message out to one's fellow  
>Theosophists, 
>>>>one 
>>>>need only  meditate on the message and put it into his mirror. It then  
>>>goes 
>>>>automatically to the server and out  to everyone else through their 
>>>>mirrors.  
>>>>
>>>>Sounds weird? Read the description of  the Shrine Room HPB had built in 
>>>>the London Lodge. They  were working with some interesting stuff back 
>>>then.  
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the Heretic  
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:45:41  P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>>robert.b. robert.b.  <WBR>macdonal robert.b< WBR<  WBR
>>>>
>>>>A few more thoughts . . .  
>>>>
>>>>This discussion seems to be getting  hung up on the theory that a truly 
>>>>democratic Society  would solve our problems, or it is argued on the 
>>other  
>>>>hand 
>>>>that we do not even need a  Society, theosophy has been disseminated in 
>>>the  
>>>>West, and we need only study what we all have access to.  It is argued 
>>>that 
>>>>the internet can be the  tie that binds us all. 
>>>>
>>>>Theosophy does  not exist in a vacuum, it is a reflection of the world  
>>>>around us and we again are reflected into that world.  Chuck pointed 
out 
>>>>one of 
>>>>the deeper  truths, that being, knowledge gets reflected into the ether 
 
>>>and 
>>>>then over time is reflected back into  us, informing us all. I have 
>often 
>>>>thought, that  if the TS could discover a new way to govern itself, 
then  
>>>>perhaps this would signal that the world is on the verge  of doing the 
>>>>same. 
>>>>Theosophy was  introduced to the West in order to lead thought in new  
>>>>directions 
>>>>and have that thought  evolve our institutions. In order to do that we 
>>>>don't have  to be noticed by everyone, if Chuck is right, as soon as we 
 
>>>>change 
>>>>that will seed the crystal, if  you like, of change all around us.  
>>>>
>>>>Cass has brought up the whole issue of  autonomy. Right now, if you are 
>>>not  
>>>>surrounded by a like minded group of theosophists who are  going to 
>allow 
>>>>you to develop along lines you feel  are right, the best thing to do is 
>>>>study  
>>>>alone, and perhaps interact with others half-way around  the globe on 
>the 
>>>>internet and do the best you can  in these spiritually dark times. Who 
>>can 
>>>>argue  with that? We are talking about change here and it certainly 
does  
>
>>>>not 
>>>>seem like people,  theosophists included, are open to real change.  
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand Anand is suggesting  that a true democracy will solve 
>>>all 
>>>>of  our problems. Democracy is the silver bullet that will slay the 
>beast  
>>>>of totalitarianism. But what is it and how is it going to  work? Some 
>say 
>>>>that the TS began as the most  democratic of institutions but look at 
it 
>>>>now.  
>>>>If India, Pakistan, and other developing Nations are  allowed to 
achieve 
>>>>economic power, then they will learn  that democracy is no protection. 
>>Ask 
>>>>any  
>>>>educated individual from the West about democracy, and if  they think 
>>>about 
>>>>it for even a few  moments, they will have to admit that in any 
election 
>>>>they  
>>>>have ever voted in, they invariably have voted for the  individual that 
>>>>they have disliked the least. Populist  leaders like Obama are rare, 
and 
>
>>>>when  
>>>>they do achieve power their voting records are no less  corrupt than 
all 
>>>>the 
>>>>rest. It is not  enough to claim that democracy is the panacea, we need 
>>to  
>>>>know the details.  
>>>>
>>>>How can a Society remain democratic  when it invariably has to struggle 
>>>>with an uneducated and  apathetic electorate. Who in this group knew 
>>>>anything  
>>>>about the by-laws of the Society to which they belong  before this last 
>>>>election? Those who do not belong to the  Adyar Society, who among you 
>>>know 
>>>>anything  about your Societies' bylaws now? Democracy is nothing 
without  
>>>an 
>>>>informed and engaged electorate. The  problem is not about 
>re-instituting 
>>>>democracy, it  is about re-inventing the electorate, how do you do 
that?  
>
>>>>Again, the 
>>>>answer Cass gives  seems to be ringing loud now, you wait until they 
are  
>>>>born. But what if they are out there now, waiting for a  form of 
>>>government 
>>>>that will inform them  and engage them. What would the nature of that 
>>>>government  be? Change has never come before the idea, how could it?  
>>>>
>>>>What happens if governments take the  internet away tomorrow, or limit 
>it 
>>>>in such ways  that you dare not speak your mind or relate to others of  
>>>>similar mind? Then where will the TS be? We will be stuck  with a TS 
>>>>leadership 
>>>>that is probably  a reflection of the government leaders that took away 
>>>the  
>>>>internet or we will be totally autonomous reading and  studying 
>theosophy 
>>>>under 
>>>>a dim  lamp in a dark basement. The governments will still be 
>democratic,  
>>>>you can either vote for this tool of the unseen power or  that tool of 
>>the 
>>>>unseen power.  
>>>>
>>>>I suspect it is important that  theosophists think about these 
>questions,  
>>
>>>>because if we can figure them out, perhaps  humanity would be ready to 
>>>>follow.  
>>>>
>>>>Robert Bruce  
>>>>
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