Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00189)

ah good
Cass


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>From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@yahoo.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 12:37:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>Hey Cass,
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>I was just kidding :D I understood the quote but thanks for the explanation. . :D
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>Preethi
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>--- On Fri, 10/7/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com> wrote:
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>From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 5:18 AM
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>I hope there wasn't a mistranslation because of language. I didn't mean that you will find yourself in the gutter, it's meaning is that the humblest has the same access to the stars as the one walking on the pavement.
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>Cass
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>>From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>
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>>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 12:48:57 AM
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>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>>Cass,
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>>I am headed for somewhere greener than the gutter hopefully... and i hope it is not the fungi and algae greening the environment around...
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>>--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com> wrote:
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>>From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com>
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>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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>>Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:41 AM
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>>Preethi, was it Oscar Wilde that said - you can still see the stars from the gutter? This maybe a blessing in disguise 
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>>Cass
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>>>From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>
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>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:51:47 PM
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>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>>>Dear Nigel,
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>>>If you have the courage of your convictions, you get kicked out on to the road. That is where i am at the moment, for standing up and fighting against the corruption the President endorses through her relatives.
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>>>--- On Thu, 9/7/09, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo. com.au> wrote:
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>>>From: nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo. com.au>
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>>>Subject: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>>>Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 7:30 AM
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>>>--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@ ...> wrote:
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>>>> Did Leadbeater encourage "blind following" as
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>>>> Anand phrases it?
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>>>> You be the judge. Here is what Mr. Leadbeater said
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>>>Yes Daniel, and all
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>>>And this blind following demanded from a man who lied 
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>>>Regards
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>>>> THIS IS NOT MERE SUPPOSITION ON MY PART, NO MERE
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>>>> FLIGHT OF THE IMAGINATION; I HAVE STOOD BESIDE YOUR
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>>>> PRESIDENT IN THE PRESENCE OF THE SUPREME DIRECTOR
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