Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00598)

I agree.
A real theosophical Teacher will of course never be like an Ortodoks teacher or a materialistic one. Never or only to illustrate the teaching.


M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MKR 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: So Anand, what about Master Koot Hoomi??


  I do not think when we find a real teacher, the teacher is going to tell you
  that he is the teacher and you are the student and you have to listen to
  him/her, just like in the elementary school. Most likely you may run into
  someone you may consider a real friend and only gradually you recognized the
  other person's knowledge and widsom and then you develop a trust in the
  other person and in due course one day you realize you found a real teacher.
  My 0.02.

  mkr

  On 10/19/08, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
  >
  >
  > I agree.
  > One can not easily walk the Path without a real Teacher.
  > One will near always get a real Teacher during ones transformation on the
  > Path.
  > Uselfish love will usually bind you to various other persons morea than
  > others - often also to one who is close to you and who is more advanced on
  > the Path.
  >
  > The beginners often walk the Paths first steps without a real Teacher.
  > Later when they are ready, they understand the value of having a real
  > Teacher - visible or invisible. They understand whether their thoughts are
  > inspired or not.
  >
  > M. Sufilight
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Frank Reitemeyer
  > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:01 AM
  > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: So Anand, what about Master Koot Hoomi??
  >
  > Poppycock, without a Master you will never come to buddhi.
  > That is proud (female?) new age rhetoric and Reiki blabla, psychic
  > illusions, but not theosophy and not reality.
  >
  > "Evolution goes on"?
  >
  > Do you say that evolution changed the last 100 years?
  >
  > Again, no one of those people who claimed to get possession of the occult
  > teachings without a master have so far presented a proof - for example one
  > single page of the quality of The Secret Doctrine.
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: christinaleestemaker
  > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:36 AM
  > Subject: Theos-World Re: So Anand, what about Master Koot Hoomi??
  >
  > Frank, that is a century ago.
  > Possibly with buddhi insight, one don't need a master, for he or she
  > is a master him -or herself.And for sure there would be any etherical
  > influence from the higher levels.
  >
  > I take what is in the teachings, but don't stay hanging in it.Times
  > goes on , or evolution goes on.For everyone, what he or she needed.
  >
  > Why we cannot influence the bad, materialistic, selfish economy in
  > this world, with the knowledge we have???
  > Is that not a great issue for theosophy ? Better than staying outside
  > this world.Or sitting on a rose cloud. In this world we have to make
  > it and as we see we have not learned yet in a century.What can few
  > persons do? we need the scale of 100 or maybe 1000 or more.
  > Christina.
  >
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, "Frank
  > Reitemeyer" <dzyan@...>
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > But HPB does not belong to the group of people who believe they can
  > find the teachings wihtout a leader.
  > > She had her own Master.
  > >
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: christinaleestemaker
  > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
  > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:42 PM
  > > Subject: Theos-World Re: So Anand, what about Master Koot Hoomi??
  > >
  > >
  > > Such people did not hang it on the Big Ben.For reasons you see what
  > > happened to HPB.
  > >
  > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, "Frank
  > Reitemeyer" <dzyan@>
  > > wrote:
  > > >
  > > > >By the way, who need leaders?
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Everyone, who wants to receive the occult teachings in the right
  > > way needs a
  > > > teacher.
  > > >
  > > > Those, who do not need the teachings and are satisfied with
  > > themselves or
  > > > with the books they can buy need no teacher.
  > > > As this is the mindset f.e. of the ULT, no teacher comes to them
  > > and they
  > > > miss him not.
  > > > So both sides are satisfied.
  > > >
  > > > >Cannot we lead ourselves?
  > > >
  > > > Hardly possible. In fact I have never met such a person or have
  > > heard about
  > > > it.
  > > > Those who proudly proclaim that they can find the teachings for
  > > themselves
  > > > have so far never given a proof of their claim.
  > > >
  > > > Frank
  > > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
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