Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00415)

Hi Wry and all of you,

Not bad Wry.
But as Blavatsky and Bailey says; - one must be: Ready to accept
demonstrated truth...etc.. look at the below quote.

So when are the pro-Baileys ready for that - in our present international -
informations society, with fast transportation, Internet, sattelite TV,
clones, cloing, genetic engineering, nano-techonology, robots, CIA on
ESP...etc...

Here is the quote:

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"The difficulty of giving one the Wisdom Religion is dealt with by H. P. B.
in the Secret Doctrine as follows:

Opinion must be reserved because:
Complete explanation for initiates only.
Only a fragmentary portion of the esoteric meaning given.
Only adepts can speak with authority. - S. D., I, 188, 190. II, 55, 90.
The teachings are offered as a hypothesis. - II, 469.
We must lose sight entirely of:
Personalities.
Dogmatic beliefs.
Special religions. - S. D., I, 3, 4.
We must be free from prejudice. - S. D., III, 1. We must also:
Be free from conceit.
Free from selfishness.
Ready to accept demonstrated truth.
We must find the highest meaning possible. S. D., III, 487.
We must be also non-sectarian. - S. D., III, 110.
We must remember the handicap of language. - S. D., I, 197, 290, 293.
We must aim to become a disciple. - S. D., I, 188. II, 246. III, 129.
We must eventually develop powers. - S. D., I, 518. II, 85.
We must lead the life of Brotherhood. S. D., I, 190.
We must remember that H. P. B . makes no claim to infallibility. S. D., II,
25 note, 273. I, 293.
H. P. B. says:

"I speak with 'absolute certainty' only so far as my own personal belief is
concerned. Those who have not the same warrant for their belief as I have
would be very credulous and foolish to accept it on blind faith... What I do
believe in is:

The unbroken oral tradition revealed by living divine men during the infancy
of mankind to the elect among men.
That it has reached us unaltered.
That the Masters are thoroughly versed in the science based on such
uninterrupted teaching." - Lucifer, Vol. V, p. 157.
"The Secret Doctrine is no 'authority' per se; but being full of quotations
and texts from the Sacred Scriptures and philosophies of almost every great
religion and school, those who belong to any of these axe sure to find
support for their arguments on some page or another. There are, however,
Theosophists, and of the best and most devoted, who do suffer from such
weakness for authority." - Lucifer, Vol. III, p. 157."
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The above is taken from "A Treatise on Cosmic Fire" 1925; Alice A. Bailey, p
481.
http://beaskund.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/fire/fire1192.html


This I think is a short verion on the core teaching followed by
pro-Blavatskys and pro-Baileys. On these teachings they must agree.
But there are of course important "details", which has been written by both
writers, which are not mentioned in the above quote.


from
M. Sufilight





----- Original Message -----
From: "wry" <wry1111@earthlink.net>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Shamballa behind facism ?


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> From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Shamballa behind facism ?
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> > Have you ever wondered why the appr. 1.000.000.000 muslims and their
sufi
> > teaching are not really mentioned in the books written by Bailey or
> > 'dictaed' by what som dare call a MASTER ?
> > Have you ever deeply consider the consequences of this ?
>
> WRY: No, but I have picked my toes while reading cheap magazines. Same
> thing. When you focus this, it will get bigger. Ignorant people need to
make
> their own choices about what to read or not read, and even if they are
given
> the right material, they will not know how to read it anyway. Better that
> one person, who has a chance to really do something, develops, as this can
> affect many. What do you think? Wry
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> > from
> > M. Sufilight...let there be peace on earth...
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> > From: <phillip@esotericastrologer.org>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:26 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Re: Shamballa behind facism ?
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> > > > How can, any divine force, - and here the divine force from
> > > Shamballa (i.e. (Para)Brahman) with its open heart stimulate the
> > > tyrant in people ? Please explain that.
> > >
> > > Simply put, the First Ray of Will-power is the purest and most
> > > potent form of spiritual energy available to Humanity. Humanity has
> > > not redeemed its lower nature yet, or raised its vibrations to the
> > > level of this pure force. Therefore the point of least resistance
> > > will be Ray One's most materialistic expression in the lower
> > > chakras. That is why DK has said that the Hierarchy has taken a
> > > calculated risk or words to that effect, to allow this stimulation
> > > to occur. As a result Humanity will move very quickly through its
> > > evolution in this interim period. Heretofore, the Hierarchy have
> > > acted as a protecting shield to Humanity from the force of
> > > Shamballa. As I outline in my book The Shamballa Impacts (excuse the
> > > plug), out of all the 5 impacts *direct* to Humanity in the past 18
> > > million years, the last three have occurred in the last 200 years!
> > > Needless to say that there is somewhat of an acceleration process
> > > occurring. And this is tied up with the karma of this planet being
> > > a 'laggard' in its spiritual evolution due to the moon chain, and
> > > the subsequent 'forced' process of evolution through initiation.
> > > Hope this clarifies...
> > > P.
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