Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00414)

Hi Davis and all of you,


Yes. But you are missing the point I am making.

1.
As long as Baileys books contain what one could call contradictions about,
wheather Bailey (and D.K.) supported
the upraise of Hitlers bad regime, then trouble will come around for sure.
It is because one so easily can misread Bailey, that the problems with the
books content today in the societies with Internet etc. get visible.
I totally agree, that pro-Baileys (i.e. at least more than 95% of them)
doesn't support the Hitler scheme. I am talking about the misunderstandings
which comes due to the content of the Bailey books.
The truth is, the books of Baileys has to be interpreted to be understood -
else they comparatively easily can get misunderstood, and trouble comes.
(Looking at: Alice A. Bailey "The Externalization of the Hierarchy"; p.
127).
Agreed ?

2.
a) The Bailey books are not a balanced multicultural presentation on
Theosophy.
b) The Bailey books leans heavily towards a Chrisitan outlook unto the
world.
c) The Middle East is hardly mentioned in the books, but the Christian
religion gets a whole lot of coverage.
d) The books were not intended for a Middle Eastern audience.
e) Bailey groups are connected with work at The United Nations,
Headquarters.
f) This is today one of the problems the books of Bailey creates in TODAYS
international information society, where there are clearly visible political
tensions between the Western politicians and The Middle Eastern ones.
Agreed ?

3.
Luci's Trust is sponsored by among others Robert McNamara, former minister
of Defence in the USA, president of the World Bank, member of the
Rockefeller Foundation, and Thomas Watson (IBM, former ambassador in
Moscow). Luci's Trust sponsors among others the following organizations: UN,
Greenpeace Int., Greenpeace USA, Amnesty Int. and UNICEF.
Agreed ?

4.
Try this website to at least see some of the problems, which you must
face...
http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/lucistrust.html

5.
An excerpt from the above website:
"The Aquarian Age Community

http://www.aquaac.org/

This Website is sponsored by the United Nations and the whole NWO philosophy
is there. The page which explains the work of the Aquarian Age Community, as
they call themselves, has this proud quote at the header of their page at
http://www.aquaac.org/about/about.html

Such a grandeur is ahead!
Such a great step awaits a fiery affirmation.
Our teaching and the affirmation of the Higher
Principles will reveal so much that is great to humanity!
A great period is drawing near: Thus we do create together.
Fiery World
Vol. III, par. 149

The Aquarian Age Community is dedicated in loving service to humanity, the
Planet and the 'Great Thinker'.
It is inspired by the teachings of Master Koot Hoomi, Master Morya, and
Master Djwhal Khul as these are set forth in the books of Helena Blavatsky,
Alice Bailey and The Agni Yoga Society. These teachings seek to inspire and
prepare human consciousness for the great oppotunities and possibilities of
the 21st century."


I hope it will help you.
I am in no doubt about, that you mean well, but I think that Lucis Trust has
more problems right now, than they themselves are aware of !
My view is, that either Lucis Trust changes their - business as usual
politics - on PR towards the Middle Eastern issue - OR they will be changed
by the Law of Karma...




from
M. Sufilight with peace on earth...




----- Original Message -----
From: "James Davis" <james@bookreader.org>
To: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:01 AM
Subject: Theos-World Sunlight in a garden


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> MNO> Hi Suzanne and all of you,
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> MNO> The truth is, I want a certain number of pro-Baileys to
> MNO>understand, what Martin Luther King Jr. calls "The urgency of the
> MNO>moment".
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> "A deep reflection upon the urgency of the times and a sympathetic
> recognition of the unhappy plight of humanity are much needed by many
> disciples and aspirants in the world today, particularly by those who
> are not close to the world situation but who are looking at it from a
> distance." A. A. Bailey
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> MNO>I am doing my best to convince you and others, that the teachings
> MNO>of Bailey and what they contains, slowly but surely are getting
> MNO>dangerous politically seen. Politically seen on an international
> MNO>scale. The United Nations are involved. Dangerous to the cause,
> MNO>which the theosophical tradition belongs to.
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> "Where the emphasis is laid upon service to one's fellowmen and the
> trend of the life force is outward to the world, then there is freedom
> from danger and the aspirant can safely meditate and aspire and work.
> His motive is pure, and he is seeking to decentralize his personality
> and shift the focus of his attention away from himself to the group.
> Thus the life of the soul can pour through him, and express itself as
> love to all beings. He knows himself to be a part of a whole and the
> life of that whole can flow through him consciously, leading him to a
> realization of brotherhood and of his oneness in relation to all
> manifested lives." A. A. Bailey
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> MNO> If the pro-Baileys of today really wants peace on the earth, they
> MNO> shouldn't support such a claim as the Hierarchy was behind
> MNO> Hitlers bad actions ! And not to mention the great number og
> MNO> pro-Baileys bias towards The Middle East (and about 1.000.000.000
> MNO> people). How weird can one get.
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> "On the basis of these distinctions, it is surely apparent that God is
> on the side of the allied nations, for it cannot be supposed that
> Christ is on the side of Hitler and the rule of cruel aggression..."
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> A. A. Bailey
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> James
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