Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00396)

"Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@a...> wrote:

> I think it is horrible, that you - seem - to find Shamballa to be 
the
> driving force behind Hitlers black magic acts !
> And that you even call that force divine !
> True ?

M.
Why do you fear so much?
The keynote of a black magician is selfishness... do you know anyone 
that is selfless? Divine energy is what you make it to be.

HPB sayeth, "Fear and hatred are essentially one and the same. He 
who fears nothing will never hate and he who hates nothing will never 
fear."

Most sincerely,
Suzanne

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hi P. Lindsay and all of you,
> 
> 
> My views are:
> Words can have different meanings. But there most be limits to the 
spoken
> word - in our PRESENT Informations Society.
> 
> I think it is horrible, that you - seem - to find Shamballa to be 
the
> driving force behind Hitlers black magic acts !
> And that you even call that force divine !
> True ?
> 
> My view is, that Karma allowed the black magic done by Hitler to 
happen.
> The Masters 'acts' so to speak made it possible for the Hitler 
facists to
> raise to power. But the Masters didn't support their actions ! The 
Master
> keept away for certain reasons, which are known by them and didn't 
interfer.
> And Humanity learnt a lesson.
> Agreed ?
> 
> I will also question wheather Brahman acts at all, with the 
ordinary use of
> the word 'act' taken in to account.
> And that is why Alice A. Bailey is talking nonsense in the quote 
mentioned
> in one of the earlier emails.
> (Alice A. Bailey: "The Externalization of the Hierarchy"; p.127, )
> The central issue is that Baileys use of words in certain passages 
of her
> books, - TODAY in our present society - are having tendencies to 
act as a
> destructive force, and not as a constructive force spiritually seen.
> 
> Those who supports Bailey among the newcomers, are often also those 
who
> supports, a fanatic stance towards the present days Televisions 
newsflashes
> and the newspapers propaganda - against, what is not a western 
lifestyle.
> Try to think that through and the consequences of it.
> Agreed?
> 
> Presently: USA wants war, and Germany says NO, One wonders why. 
Anyone ?
> Maybe the fake Bailey - masters are up to a new plot - using the 
Shamballa
> force - and using their "Great" Invocation upon the United 
Nations ! Is this
> true ?
> What are your views P. Lindsay ?
> I can only urge you to reconsider your support for those Bailey-
groups who
> PRESENTLY acts as very dubious sorcerers near The United Nations 
buildings.
> Many, if not all of them, are wrong in being passive on The Middle 
East
> issues, or by their passiveness not supporting peace.
> 
> I deny, that any force named "divine" honestly can support black 
magic.
> The motive will always be unselfish in its nature.
> Words in emails are not the best to use, when are dealing with 
these issues.
> 
> Is it so, that if I am a influential politician, and together with 
some
> other countries starts a war, then I can just claim, that it is 
Shamballas
> divine force which is behind me ? And if am from a western country, 
I will
> be sure to find support to my claim ?
> 
> Have you ever wondered why the appr. 1.000.000.000 muslims and 
their sufi
> teaching are not really mentioned in the books written by Bailey or
> 'dictaed' by what som dare call a MASTER ?
> Have you ever deeply consider the consequences of this ?
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight...let there be peace on earth...
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <phillip@e...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:26 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Shamballa behind facism ?
> 
> 
> > > How can, any divine force, - and here the divine force from
> > Shamballa (i.e. (Para)Brahman) with its open heart stimulate the
> > tyrant in people ? Please explain that.
> >
> > Simply put, the First Ray of Will-power is the purest and most
> > potent form of spiritual energy available to Humanity. Humanity 
has
> > not redeemed its lower nature yet, or raised its vibrations to the
> > level of this pure force. Therefore the point of least resistance
> > will be Ray One's most materialistic expression in the lower
> > chakras. That is why DK has said that the Hierarchy has taken a
> > calculated risk or words to that effect, to allow this stimulation
> > to occur. As a result Humanity will move very quickly through its
> > evolution in this interim period. Heretofore, the Hierarchy have
> > acted as a protecting shield to Humanity from the force of
> > Shamballa. As I outline in my book The Shamballa Impacts (excuse 
the
> > plug), out of all the 5 impacts *direct* to Humanity in the past 
18
> > million years, the last three have occurred in the last 200 years!
> > Needless to say that there is somewhat of an acceleration process
> > occurring. And this is tied up with the karma of this planet being
> > a 'laggard' in its spiritual evolution due to the moon chain, and
> > the subsequent 'forced' process of evolution through initiation.
> > Hope this clarifies...
> > P.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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