Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00322)

Frank Reitemeyer wrote:
> Well, at the New York TS (Adyar) Lodge, we often recommend that members
> who want to learn Blavatsky's works in more depth pay a visit to the
> local ULT, as well...
> 
> Frank:
> Does that mean that The NY Adyar Lodge is on a lower level than even 
> the ULT?

Why would it?

What it DOES mean is that the ULT has many excellent programs on the
works of Blavatsky, while the Adyar TS is more varied.

> Does Adyar know something about esoteric successors of HPB?

Many members believe they know something about esoteric successors of
HPB. I personally think that just because someone is a successor to HPB,
that doesn't mean that they're right, or even as accurate as HPB (or
even accurate at all).

> And how can the Adyar TS recommend ULT on HPB topics when the ULT 
> (according to several emails from ULT'ers in this list) does not know 
> anything about the esoteric side of HPB?

Because the exoteric side is extremely useful. 

> What does your term "depth" mean in this contect? Under in-depth study 
> of Theosophy I understand the occult or esoteric level. The question 
> of occult successors appointed by HPB:. 

Frankly, I'm not sure myself whether or not she appointed any; I'm
certain that it's not terribly important either. 

> So far it was openly denied by ULT'ers that HPB has had any 
> successors. Far more, it was also several times denied that co-founder 
> of the TS and ES (the TS being lauchned out from the ES and not vice 
> versa as some exotericists believe) Judge was no messenger of the 
> Masters, although ULT founder Robert Crosbie knew it! But beyond WQJ 
> the ULT accepts no messenger or occult successor to HPB as O.H.

How is this relevant?

> But Bart, your comment can also be interpreted that way: The half 
> blind is the king under the totally blind!

How about: The New York ULT has some good classes and lectures on
Blavatsky which the New York Lodge of the TS/Adyar does not have. On the
other hand, the New York Lodge of the Theosophical Society (Adyar) has
some good classes and lectures that the New York ULT does not have.
Therefore, both organizations are, in my opinion, doing theosophical
work; just different kinds.