Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00321)

See below for key to liberation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Meredith" <bill_meredith@earthlink.net>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Gurdjieff Salted


> I'm sure Wry will respond to this message. He will have no choice in the
> matter as the die has already been cast. I have studied die casting for
30
> years and probably know more about it than anyone on this list if not
> anywhere in my opinion of course. Perhaps when I have more time after I
> start my local reading club I will leave a message here which will explain
> just how the casting of dies is an ancient form of karmic discrimination
> which if one is free to think one knows something about but clearly in my
> opinion only an unintelligent person would even bother thinking about much
> less reading about. Of course I am very busy now with 15 other lists as
> well as my fan club and no those are not people who worship me, but rather
> people who have achieved the nexus between the observer and observed in
such
> a way as to be able to lay in the purely driven snow and produce angels
with
> a fanning motion of their arms. This is also an ancient art form which I
> also probably know more about than anyone else in my opinion. Of course
> some people THINK they have studied this, but this is
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Wry: Hi.


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>Bill
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wry" <wry1111@earthlink.net>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:19 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Gurdjieff Salted
>
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <thalprin@yahoo.com>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:25 AM
> > Subject: Theos-World Wry
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > > Hi Wry,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the kindly note - I enjoyed reading your thoughts.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking, I bet me grocer wishes there were more buddists
> > > shopping for bitter fruit. That's funny. I like that.
> >
> > Grocers don't sell bitter fruit as no one would buy it. But if you don't
> > take it when it is offered as an act of kindness, you will have to pay,
in
> > one way or another. Sometimes if you have bitter fruit no one will
accept,
> > you might need to pay someone to take it away from you.
> > >
> > > I believe, yes, in decernment -which- no is not quite the same word
> > > as discrimenation -however- to each his own.
> >
> > Discriminbation is another word for wisdom. When the chaff is separated
> from
> > the wheat is is not discerned, but rather discriminated from the wheat.
> > Sorry about this, but nature can be cruel.
> > >
> > > And, blame, blame would seem to me to be a rascal loop, hopefully,
> > > not for truly spiritual people to be bound up into.
> >
> > You don't know. Sometimes there is a special junctures where someone
> needs
> > to be blamed, but don't worry, no one is blaming you, as you are not
ABLE
> to
> > be blamed, but I am.
> > >
> > > Other than that, hi ho, yes, I feel quite "free" to do as a please
> > > within reason (of course) and so really, no, you don't need to take
> > > it upon yourself to try to tell me what to do none-the-less though
> > > thanks for the very fine suggestion.
> >
> > >
> > > For example, at times, yes, I might choose to offer you a mirror.
> > >
> >
> > The holding up a mirror by someone who is not developed is an act of
hate.
> > Of course the kind of people who hold up mirrors for others consider
> > themselves to be developed. This kind of shenanigan is generally
speaking
> a
> > movement away from pain for the individual who is holding up the
so-called
> > "mirror," and I see no reason to consider you an exception to this
rule.
> > Some Gurdjieff groups do this as part of a misguided practice and call
it
> > "taking snapshots" of each other. Unfortunately, this is not how human
> > beings learn or how real transformation occurs. I say, "unfortunately,"
> > because if people could learn about themselves in this way, the whole
> > consciousness of humanity would already be transformed, as people love
to
> > hold up "mirrors" for each other. Sincerely and best wishes, Wry
> >
> >
> > > Have a BEAUTIFUL day,
> > > Terrie
> > >
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