Theos-Talk Archives (April 2000 Message tt00139)

Hello Eugene,

Thanks for offering your interesting thoughts on Parabrahm and the Monad.  You write:

+AD4- My understanding is that the Causeless Cause 
+AD4- is Parabrahm/Mulaprakriti and the First Cause
+AD4- is the First Logos or Brahma(neutral) at what 
+AD4- one might refer to as the Cosmic Atmic level.

That's very interesting.  I'd not quite thought of +ACo-both+ACo- Parabrahm/Mulaprakriti as being the +ACI-Causeless Cause+ACI-, but had used used that expression to refer to Parabrahm alone.  Though as HPB suggest in the SD, Parabrahm and Mulaprakriti are one - for example on the first page of the Proem of the Secret Doctrine, where it is stated:

+ACI-The one circle is divine Unity, from which all proceeds, whither all returns. Its circumference -- a forcibly limited symbol, in view of the limitation of the human mind -- indicates the abstract, ever incognisable PRESENCE, and its plane, the Universal Soul, although the two are one. Only the face of the Disk being white and the ground all around black, shows clearly that its plane is the only knowledge, dim and hazy though it still is, that is attainable by man. It is on this plane that the Manvantaric manifestations begin+ADs- for it is in this SOUL that slumbers, during the Pralaya, the Divine Thought,+ACo- wherein lies concealed the plan of every future Cosmogony and Theogony.+ACI-

In one way we could see Parabrahm as the +ACI-ever incognisable PRESENCE+ACI- and Mulaprakriti as the plane of the circle.  Thus the Universal Soul standing in relation to Parabrahm at the level of macrocosm just as Buddhi (the Spiritual Soul) stands in relation to ATMA at the level of microcosm.  

Would you consider the First Cause is symbolised by the point in the hitherto immaculate white disk, as mentioned in the PROEM, first page.?  Itself still formless, hence the unmanifested Logos.  Have look at Page 16 of the Proem and see if you agree whether the summary of four points might represent (1) Parabrahm, the Causeless Cause followed by (2),(3), and (4) representing the three Logoi?

More to be said and explored, but not much time at the moment -  just wanted to add a few thoughts.  Really good to see someone really keen on studying the Secret Doctrine.

Best wishes

Peter


+AD4- -----Original Message-----
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+AD4- Sent: 25 April 2000 22:23
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+AD4- Subject: Theos-World The Causeless Cause and the First Cause
+AD4- 
+AD4- 
+AD4- Hi,
+AD4- 
+AD4- 
+AD4- The Cosmic Monad on it's own level, the Cosmic Monadic Plane or 
+AD4- Paranirvana,
+AD4- is Parabrahma/Mulaprakriti and is the Causeless Cause.  This is 
+AD4- when the All
+AD4- is +ACI-at rest+ACI-.
+AD4- 
+AD4- The Cosmic Monad then manifests through the Cosmic Atma-Buddhi or 
+AD4- the first
+AD4- and the second Logos during the manifesting phase.  It is this Cosmic Atma
+AD4- or Brahma(neutral) that is referred to as the First Cause not the 
+AD4- Causeless
+AD4- Cause.  The Causeless Cause is beyond the First Cause.
+AD4- 
+AD4- This may be an important distinction.  This is why the term Monad 
+AD4- refers to
+AD4- either the monad on the monadic plane or to Atma-Buddhi.  All 
+AD4- depends on the
+AD4- context.  I suppose that most often the term refers to Atma-Buddhi, as the
+AD4- wise refrain from speculating on the monad out of manifestation.
+AD4- 
+AD4- Eugene
+AD4- 
+AD4- 
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