Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00250)

It was you guys who put the Brits into bankruptcy.  You think you gave all those planes and ships, guns and armanents gratia - it took the Brits over 20 years to buy back London Rail

Cass


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>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, 13 July, 2009 3:13:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>They were spending a lot more than they were making and the war left 
>Britain bankrupt. That was one of the reasons for the somewhat tyrannical 
>austerity policies of the Labor Government after WW2 that were the real source 
>material for Orwell in writing 1984.
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>India, in fact the entire Empire, was a drain they could not afford. 
>Empires, unless they are run with a will to be totally ruthless, are a terrible 
>economic drain. The British simply did not have that kind of will.
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>Chuck the Heretic
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>In a message dated 7/12/2009 11:35:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
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>I don't think so Chuck, the British were making millions in trade between 
>India and the West. If anything I would say that trade through India 
>helped in funding the british war efforts, not to mention providing soldiers to 
>boot!
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>I think liberation in India came just at the end of the war so Gandhi's 
>timing was perfect. The British were preoccupied in winning back Europe.
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>Cass
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>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) " 
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 
>>Sent: Sunday, 12 July, 2009 2:40:54 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>>No, WW2 brought down the English colonies. They just couldn't afford them 
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>>any more.
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>>Ghandi succeeded because he was able to use the British fundamental 
>>weakness, a belief in law, against them. Stalin would have just killed 
>him 
>>outright and then wiped out anyone who followed him.
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>>Chuck the Heretic
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>>In a message dated 7/11/2009 9:15:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
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>>ah ha - you just demoted yourself as Arch Heretic!!!
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>>Cass
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>>ps Stalin would have had a meagre lunch on Gandhi - but I think you are 
>>glossing over what he accomplished - he brought down the British 
>colonisation 
>>of the world, starting with India, the jewel in their crown.
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>>Cass
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>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>>Sent: Saturday, 11 July, 2009 4:40:09 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>>>Hmmm, let's see. Ghandi never faced a real opponent, Stalin would have 
>>>had him for lunch and Mother Theresa was a ghoul who fed off the 
>energies 
>>of 
>>>the dying. I don't know what they were teaching but it ain't anything I 
>>>would want to learn.
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>>>I'm saying we need to get away from the notion of teachers as 
>>identifiable 
>>>agents altogether.
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>>>Chuck the Heretic
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>>>In a message dated 7/10/2009 10:22:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
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>>>So you are saying that World Teachers are known by their actions rather 
>>>than their words? If this is the case one could argue that Gandhi and 
>>Mother 
>>>Theresa were world teachers.
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>>>I suppose one can walk with world teachers or one can walk behind them. 
>>>A spiritual evolved soul is probably on the way to being his/her own 
>>world 
>>>teacher.
>>>
>>>Cass
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>>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:48:56 PM
>>>>Subject: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>>>>Ok. The World Teacher thing is fun but the truth is that Theosophist 
>>have 
>>>>been flying the wrong carpet on it since the idea floated out of Annie 
>>>and 
>>>>the Bishop's hats. 
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>>>>First, there really has never been an identifiable person who could be 
>>>>considered a "World Teacher" who had any serious impact in his 
>lifetime. 
>>>The 
>>>>Buddha was just another local nutcase and Jesus got himself killed. So 
>>>>this business about finding out who the next "World Teacher" was going 
>>to 
>>>be 
>>>>makes about as much sense as trying to find out who will be the next 
>>>Michael 
>>>>Jackson (in the hope of aborting him before he can appear) and all the 
>>>fuss 
>>>>over whether it was Krishnamurti or Aleister Crowley or even L. Ron 
>>>>Hubbard is missing the point.
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>>>>We can ignore crooks like Sai Baba Booey and crazy old Ben Creme for 
>the 
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>>>>moment.
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>>>>If there were to be a world teacher, that individual would not have to 
>>>>appear in public at all. He could be totally obscure, sitting in his 
>>>living 
>>>>room, watching reruns of old game shows on cable, an putting the 
>>>information 
>>>>directly into the minds of the people prepared to receive it without 
>>them 
>>>>even knowing that he exists or that the information, the ideas as it 
>>>were, 
>>>>came from any source other than their own minds. The techniques are 
>>>>certainly simple enough. Anyone can master them in a few days. Which is 
>>>why the 
>>>>dugpa stuff is so silly. There is nothing they can do that anyone else 
>>>>cannot do and probably are.
>>>>
>>>>It is obvious that the idea of a World Teacher, wandering the earth 
>>>>spreading teaching to the hungry masses is a simple failure to 
>>understand 
>>>how 
>>>>information can be spread. It is from a mindset locked into archaic and 
>>>>fundamentally clumsy means of communication, voice, the written word, 
>>>personal 
>>>>appearance, even video. There is no need for any of that and one 
>wonders 
>>>>why those called masters of the wisdom, who frankly do not, in 
>>>retrospect, 
>>>>seem to have been masters of much of anything but falling off their 
>>>flying 
>>>>carpets, would not have realized that. 
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>>>>The search is a waste of time and energy. If there really is a world 
>>>>teacher running around loose somewhere, he has no need to be found, no 
>>>desire to 
>>>>be public. That would just get in the way and be a distraction.
>>>>
>>>>It is time to face reality and forget all the nonsense that has been 
>>>>written in the past by people who either did not know what they were 
>>>talking 
>>>>about or who had a vested interest in public ignorance.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the heretic
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