Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00253)

Better them than us.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:07:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


It was you guys who put the Brits into bankruptcy.  You think you gave  all 
those planes and ships, guns and armanents gratia - it took the Brits over  
20 years to buy back London Rail

Cass

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>From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) " 
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent:  Monday, 13 July, 2009 3:13:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up  the wrong tree, as usual
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>They  were spending a lot more than they were making and the war left  
>Britain bankrupt. That was one of the reasons for the somewhat  tyrannical 
>austerity policies of the Labor Government after WW2 that  were the real 
source 
>material for Orwell in writing  1984.
>
>India, in fact the entire Empire, was a drain they could  not afford. 
>Empires, unless they are run with a will to be totally  ruthless, are a 
terrible 
>economic drain. The British simply did not  have that kind of will.
>
>Chuck the  Heretic
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>In a message dated 7/12/2009 11:35:19  P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>yahoo.
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>I don't think so Chuck, the British were making  millions in trade between 
>India and the West. If anything I would say  that trade through India 
>helped in funding the british war efforts,  not to mention providing 
soldiers to 
>boot!
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>I think  liberation in India came just at the end of the war so Gandhi's 
>timing  was perfect. The British were preoccupied in winning back  Europe.
>
>Cass
>
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>>From:  "_Drpsionic@From:  "_Drpsionic@<WBR>aFrom:  "_Drps
><_Drpsionic@_Drpsionic@<WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@<WB>
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>Sent: Sunday, 12 July,  2009 2:40:54 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree,  as  usual
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>>No,  WW2 brought down the English colonies. They just couldn't afford 
them  
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>>any more.
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>>Ghandi succeeded because  he was able to use the British fundamental 
>>weakness, a belief in  law, against them. Stalin would have just killed 
>him  
>>outright and then wiped out anyone who followed  him.
>>
>>Chuck the  Heretic
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>>In a message dated 7/11/2009  9:15:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@  <WBR>ya
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>>ah ha - you just demoted yourself as Arch  Heretic!!!
>>
>>Cass
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>>ps Stalin would  have had a meagre lunch on Gandhi - but I think you are 
>>glossing  over what he accomplished - he brought down the British 
>colonisation  
>>of the world, starting with India, the jewel in their  crown.
>>
>>Cass
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>>>From:  "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom:  "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_  (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
yahoog
>>>Sent: Saturday, 11 July,  2009 4:40:09 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong  tree, as  usual
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>>>Hmmm,  let's see. Ghandi never faced a real opponent, Stalin would have  
>>>had him for lunch and Mother Theresa was a ghoul who fed off  the 
>energies 
>>of 
>>>the dying. I don't know  what they were teaching but it ain't anything I 
>>>would want to  learn.
>>>
>>>I'm saying we need to get away from the  notion of teachers as 
>>identifiable 
>>>agents  altogether.
>>>
>>>Chuck the  Heretic
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated  7/10/2009 10:22:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>silva_cass@  silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>>
>>>So you are saying  that World Teachers are known by their actions rather 
>>>than  their words? If this is the case one could argue that Gandhi and  
>>Mother 
>>>Theresa were world  teachers.
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>>>I suppose one can walk with world  teachers or one can walk behind them. 
>>>A spiritual evolved soul  is probably on the way to being his/her own 
>>world  
>>>teacher.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
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>>>>From:  "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom:  "_Drps
>>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_  (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
>yahoog
>>>>Sent:  Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:48:56 PM
>>>>Subject: Theos-World  Barking up the wrong tree, as  usual
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>>>>Ok.  The World Teacher thing is fun but the truth is that Theosophist  
>>have 
>>>>been flying the wrong carpet on it since  the idea floated out of Annie 
>>>and 
>>>>the  Bishop's hats. 
>>>>
>>>>First, there really has  never been an identifiable person who could be 
>>>>considered  a "World Teacher" who had any serious impact in his 
>lifetime.  
>>>The 
>>>>Buddha was just another local nutcase  and Jesus got himself killed. So 
>>>>this business about  finding out who the next "World Teacher" was going 
>>to  
>>>be 
>>>>makes about as much sense as trying to  find out who will be the next 
>>>Michael  
>>>>Jackson (in the hope of aborting him before he can appear)  and all the 
>>>fuss 
>>>>over whether it was  Krishnamurti or Aleister Crowley or even L. Ron 
>>>>Hubbard is  missing the point.
>>>>
>>>>We can ignore crooks  like Sai Baba Booey and crazy old Ben Creme for 
>the  
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>>>>moment.
>>>>
>>>>If  there were to be a world teacher, that individual would not have to 
 
>>>>appear in public at all. He could be totally obscure,  sitting in his 
>>>living 
>>>>room, watching  reruns of old game shows on cable, an putting the 
>>>information  
>>>>directly into the minds of the people prepared to receive  it without 
>>them 
>>>>even knowing that he exists or  that the information, the ideas as it 
>>>were,  
>>>>came from any source other than their own minds. The  techniques are 
>>>>certainly simple enough. Anyone can master  them in a few days. Which 
is 
>>>why the 
>>>>dugpa  stuff is so silly. There is nothing they can do that anyone else 
 
>>>>cannot do and probably  are.
>>>>
>>>>It is obvious that the idea of a  World Teacher, wandering the earth 
>>>>spreading teaching to  the hungry masses is a simple failure to 
>>understand  
>>>how 
>>>>information can be spread. It is from  a mindset locked into archaic 
and 
>>>>fundamentally clumsy  means of communication, voice, the written word, 
>>>personal  
>>>>appearance, even video. There is no need for any of that  and one 
>wonders 
>>>>why those called masters of the  wisdom, who frankly do not, in 
>>>retrospect,  
>>>>seem to have been masters of much of anything but falling  off their 
>>>flying 
>>>>carpets, would not have  realized that. 
>>>>
>>>>The search is a waste  of time and energy. If there really is a world 
>>>>teacher  running around loose somewhere, he has no need to be found, no 
 
>>>desire to 
>>>>be public. That would just get  in the way and be a distraction.
>>>>
>>>>It is  time to face reality and forget all the nonsense that has been  
>>>>written in the past by people who either did not know what  they were 
>>>talking 
>>>>about or who had a  vested interest in public  ignorance.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the  heretic
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