Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
Jul 12, 2009 10:13 PM
by Drpsionic
They were spending a lot more than they were making and the war left
Britain bankrupt. That was one of the reasons for the somewhat tyrannical
austerity policies of the Labor Government after WW2 that were the real source
material for Orwell in writing 1984.
India, in fact the entire Empire, was a drain they could not afford.
Empires, unless they are run with a will to be totally ruthless, are a terrible
economic drain. The British simply did not have that kind of will.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/12/2009 11:35:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
I don't think so Chuck, the British were making millions in trade between
India and the West. If anything I would say that trade through India
helped in funding the british war efforts, not to mention providing soldiers to
boot!
I think liberation in India came just at the end of the war so Gandhi's
timing was perfect. The British were preoccupied in winning back Europe.
Cass
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<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)
>Sent: Sunday, 12 July, 2009 2:40:54 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>No, WW2 brought down the English colonies. They just couldn't afford them
>any more.
>
>Ghandi succeeded because he was able to use the British fundamental
>weakness, a belief in law, against them. Stalin would have just killed
him
>outright and then wiped out anyone who followed him.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
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>In a message dated 7/11/2009 9:15:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>ya
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>ah ha - you just demoted yourself as Arch Heretic!!!
>
>Cass
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>ps Stalin would have had a meagre lunch on Gandhi - but I think you are
>glossing over what he accomplished - he brought down the British
colonisation
>of the world, starting with India, the jewel in their crown.
>
>Cass
>
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>>From: "_Drpsionic@From: "_Drpsionic@<WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
><_Drpsionic@_Drpsionic@<WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@<WB>
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>Sent: Saturday, 11 July, 2009 4:40:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>>Hmmm, let's see. Ghandi never faced a real opponent, Stalin would have
>>had him for lunch and Mother Theresa was a ghoul who fed off the
energies
>of
>>the dying. I don't know what they were teaching but it ain't anything I
>>would want to learn.
>>
>>I'm saying we need to get away from the notion of teachers as
>identifiable
>>agents altogether.
>>
>>Chuck the Heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/10/2009 10:22:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
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>>So you are saying that World Teachers are known by their actions rather
>>than their words? If this is the case one could argue that Gandhi and
>Mother
>>Theresa were world teachers.
>>
>>I suppose one can walk with world teachers or one can walk behind them.
>>A spiritual evolved soul is probably on the way to being his/her own
>world
>>teacher.
>>
>>Cass
>>
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>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
yahoog
>>>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:48:56 PM
>>>Subject: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>>>Ok. The World Teacher thing is fun but the truth is that Theosophist
>have
>>>been flying the wrong carpet on it since the idea floated out of Annie
>>and
>>>the Bishop's hats.
>>>
>>>First, there really has never been an identifiable person who could be
>>>considered a "World Teacher" who had any serious impact in his
lifetime.
>>The
>>>Buddha was just another local nutcase and Jesus got himself killed. So
>>>this business about finding out who the next "World Teacher" was going
>to
>>be
>>>makes about as much sense as trying to find out who will be the next
>>Michael
>>>Jackson (in the hope of aborting him before he can appear) and all the
>>fuss
>>>over whether it was Krishnamurti or Aleister Crowley or even L. Ron
>>>Hubbard is missing the point.
>>>
>>>We can ignore crooks like Sai Baba Booey and crazy old Ben Creme for
the
>
>>>moment.
>>>
>>>If there were to be a world teacher, that individual would not have to
>>>appear in public at all. He could be totally obscure, sitting in his
>>living
>>>room, watching reruns of old game shows on cable, an putting the
>>information
>>>directly into the minds of the people prepared to receive it without
>them
>>>even knowing that he exists or that the information, the ideas as it
>>were,
>>>came from any source other than their own minds. The techniques are
>>>certainly simple enough. Anyone can master them in a few days. Which is
>>why the
>>>dugpa stuff is so silly. There is nothing they can do that anyone else
>>>cannot do and probably are.
>>>
>>>It is obvious that the idea of a World Teacher, wandering the earth
>>>spreading teaching to the hungry masses is a simple failure to
>understand
>>how
>>>information can be spread. It is from a mindset locked into archaic and
>>>fundamentally clumsy means of communication, voice, the written word,
>>personal
>>>appearance, even video. There is no need for any of that and one
wonders
>>>why those called masters of the wisdom, who frankly do not, in
>>retrospect,
>>>seem to have been masters of much of anything but falling off their
>>flying
>>>carpets, would not have realized that.
>>>
>>>The search is a waste of time and energy. If there really is a world
>>>teacher running around loose somewhere, he has no need to be found, no
>>desire to
>>>be public. That would just get in the way and be a distraction.
>>>
>>>It is time to face reality and forget all the nonsense that has been
>>>written in the past by people who either did not know what they were
>>talking
>>>about or who had a vested interest in public ignorance.
>>>
>>>Chuck the heretic
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