Theos-Talk Archives (June 2009 Message tt00638)

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On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi MKR, I thought theos L died a natural death.  It was started for those
> who were not thoroughly immersed in the political situation and I gained
> much from it.  I never receive any postings from it.
> Cass
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> >
> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, 28 June, 2009 11:59:50 PM
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Dirty Tricks update
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Eric: Here is a summary of the resources and the current situation. I hope
> >it helps.
> >.
> >MKR
> >.
> >+++---+++--- +++---+++
> >THEOSOPHICAL MAILLISTS & COMMUNITY SITE
> >.
> >There are only two theosophical maillists - theos-talk and theos-L, both
> at
> >yahoo groups - which are independent of all organizations and are
> >unmoderated. There is also a ning communit site at www.theosophy. net,
> which
> >is also independent of all organizations. These resources are used by
> >"theosophists" who belong to organizations as well as those who do not
> >belong to any. Hence, there is free exchange of ideas and discussion on
> >varied matters in these sites without interference from organizations
> which
> >have their own vested interests. So, when a "theosophist" is looking for
> >help or information, these are places to go to.
> >.
> >CURRENT SITUATION IN TS-ADYAR
> >.
> >Any newbee visitor to theos-talk in recent months would be wondering why
> >there is so much traffic on TS organizational matters on theos-talk. This
> >needs explanation. Since early last year, TS has faced a crisis like of
> >which no one has ever seen in last more than 50 - 75 years. It is also
> more
> >serious than the Coloumb crisis which shook the TS in its foundations. So
> >for newbees, some background information is needed.
> >.
> >The crisis started with the election of International President.
> >International President candidates are nominated by the members of the
> >General Council which consists of the National Secretaries, ex-officio
> >members and nominated members. Once nomination is done, members world-wide
> >cast their votes and winner is determined.
> >.
> >In the current election, there were two candidates; current president and
> >another candidate. Many GC members who was opposed to election of the
> >current president, tried to sway the election by alleging that the
> president
> >is sick mentally and physically and hence should be defeated. However,
> three
> >well known and highly regarded physicians from three continents found her
> >fit, both mentally and physically and she was elected with a wide margin.
> >.
> >The matter would have ended with election and TS would have gone on its
> way
> >to fulfill its mission - spreading theosophy. It was not to be. Soon after
> >the election, members were shocked to learn of a ultra secret move by a
> >handful of GC members, which included the defeated candidate, to change
> the
> >rules of TS, to disenfranchise all the members and seize the power to
> >appoint the president. Already GC has the monopoly to nominate the
> >presidential candidates and not satisfied with it, the move was in effect
> to
> >monopolize the appointment of the president, by disenfranchising the
> >members. Many members were in shock and dismay that their leaders would
> even
> >dream of disenfranchisement. This was also seen by many as an end-run
> >reaction after losing the election. After public disclosure and member
> >reaction, it has not moved forward so far. In the minds of many members,
> >this incident also diminished the trust members had in their leaders.
> >.
> >In any organization, such as TS, unity of purpose and cooperation is
> >essential for the growth. The GC meeting held in December 2008, revealed a
> >deep cleavage between two groups of members and this was displayed by the
> >pattern of voting in the GC meeting.
> >.
> >So in the above circumstances, members are alert and vigilant as the do
> not
> >know what to expect next from their leaders.
> >.
> >THEOS-TALK
> >.
> >Much of the current discussion on organizational and some philosophical
> >matters take place here. This is the only forum where free discussion can
> >take place without organizational intereference. But for the disclosure of
> >the disenfranchisement move in this list, the disenfranchisement would
> have
> >been a fait accompli and TS would have changed topsy turvy by now. I am
> sure
> >there are some unhappy campers on this issue.
> >.
> >THEOS-L
> >.
> >This is the second maillist which is not controlled by any organization.
> >Much of the traffic on this list deal with theosophical and philosophical
> >matters and occassionally you will see other matters discussed. It has a
> >much smaller circulation.
> >.
> >THEOSOPHICAL NING SITE
> >.
> >The theosophical ning site at www.theosophy. net, is the newest online
> forum
> >to interact with others interested in theosophy and allied matters. It is
> >also independent and not controlled by any organization.
> >.
> >Many of us participate in all of the above and the trick in participation
> is
> >to post a question or request for help or information and usually, you get
> >quick responses. So it is upto us, the participants, to keep the sites
> >active and make use of it.
> >.
> >MKR
> >.
> >Visit www.theosophy. net and enjoy.
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Eric S. Dye <brainspeaks@ gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
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> >> Hello Folks,
> >>
> >> Although I have been a member of this list for 9 months or so, I had no
> >> access to it for 8 months. When I joined the list, I posted something
> >> about Alice Bailey, got a negative post from someone and then a kind
> >> post from MKR. I have been a Theosophical student for 35 years, not
> >> necessarily a Theosophist in the political end of it, but in the living
> >> the life of.......... . I am wondering if there is ever any discussion
> of
> >> Theosophical precepts and the life teachings of Theosophy in addition to
> >> the politics in Adyar. Now that I have become an active member again (as
> >> of today), I do wonder if Theosophy as a "way of life" is ever discussed
> >> or if this list is designed around the politics in India. That is
> >> interesting to a degree, but I think it gets "stale" after awhile.Thanks
> >>
> >> Eric S. Dye, brainspeaks@ gmail.com <brainspeaks% 40gmail.com>
> >>
> >> MKR wrote:
> >> > The individual was from Chicago according to the profile. I hope at
> the
> >> end
> >> > of the detective work, someone is going have a virtual pie in their
> face
> >> if
> >> > another person was behind the trick!!!
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:35 PM, <Drpsionic@aol.com<Drpsionic%40aol. com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I wonder if I should start wearing a mask with a new avatar to
> confuse
> >> >> them. After all, two can play at that game.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chuck the Heretic
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> In a message dated 6/27/2009 8:06:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> >> mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com> <mkr777%40gmail. com>
> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> The participant in the ning community who posted a doctored document
> and
> >> >> when questioned, signed off quickly and left. Many participants now
> feel
> >> >> that the person was masquerading using a pseudonym.
> >> >> .
> >> >> Based on past experience of some of the participants here, the
> >> masqueraders
> >> >> are de-masked and publicly embarrassed in time.
> >> >> .
> >> >> Vigilancy of participants seems to be a solution to prevent
> masqueraders
> >> >> causing trouble.
> >> >> .
> >> >> .
> >> >> MKR
> >> >> .
> >> >> PS: This may not be the last of masqueraders; do not be surprised if
> we
> >> run
> >> >> into them in the future.
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> >> loves
> >> life in every form that it appears, a power that does not judge what it
> >> encounters, a power that perceives meaningfulness and purpose in the
> >> smallest
> >> details upon the Earth. p.26
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