Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00506)

Dear friends


My views are:

Let me be more precise about the below quote and emphasise the following passage
and compare this with the present day democracies in the western part of the world.

Theosophy and politics:
"Some vilify the Theosophical Society only because it presumes to attempt to do that in which other systems - Church and State Christianity pre-eminently - have failed most egregiously"
.......
"Will you revile and scoff at the "Sermon on the Mount" because your social, political and even religious laws have, so far, not only failed to carry out its precepts in their spirit, but even in their dead letter? Abolish the oath in Courts, Parliament, Army and everywhere, and do as the Quakers do, if you will call yourselves Christians. 
.......
"Abolish the Courts themselves, for if you would follow the Commandments of Christ, you have to give away your coat to him who deprives you of your cloak, and turn your left cheek to the bully who smites you on the right."
http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/aKEY.htm (H. P. Blavatsky)




M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Morten Nymann Olesen 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Can we see Obama as Hitler in Mass Psychosis.


  Dear friends and all

  My views are:

  May I add the following?

  H. P. Blavatsky wrote in The Key to Theosophy, p. 53-55:

  "ENQUIRER. This is pure Altruism, I confess. 

  THEOSOPHIST. It is. And if only one Fellow of the T. S. out of ten would practise it ours would be a body of elect indeed. But there

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  are those among the outsiders who will always refuse to see the essential difference between Theosophy and the Theosophical Society, the idea and its imperfect embodiment. Such would visit every sin and shortcoming of the vehicle, the human body, on the pure spirit which sheds thereon its divine light. Is this just to either? They throw stones at an association that tries to work up to, and for the propagation of, its ideal with most tremendous odds against it. Some vilify the Theosophical Society only because it presumes to attempt to do that in which other systems - Church and State Christianity pre-eminently - have failed most egregiously; others because they would fain preserve the existing state of things: Pharisees and Sadducees in the seat of Moses, and publicans and sinners revelling in high places, as under the Roman Empire during its decadence. Fair-minded people, at any rate, ought to remember that the man who does all he can, does as much as he who has achieved the most, in this world of relative possibilities. This is a simple truism, an axiom supported for believers in the Gospels by the parable of the talents given by their Master: the servant who doubled his two talents was rewarded as much as that other fellow-servant who had received five. To every man it is given "according to his several ability." 

  ENQUIRER. Yet it is rather difficult to draw the line of demarcation between the abstract and the concrete in this case, as we have only the latter to form our judgment by. 

  THEOSOPHIST. Then why make an exception for the T. S.? Justice, like charity, ought to begin at home. Will you revile and scoff at the "Sermon on the Mount" because your social, political

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  and even religious laws have, so far, not only failed to carry out its precepts in their spirit, but even in their dead letter? Abolish the oath in Courts, Parliament, Army and everywhere, and do as the Quakers do, if you will call yourselves Christians. Abolish the Courts themselves, for if you would follow the Commandments of Christ, you have to give away your coat to him who deprives you of your cloak, and turn your left cheek to the bully who smites you on the right. "Resist not evil, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you," for "whosoever shall break one of the least of these Commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven," and "whosoever shall say 'Thou fool' shall be in danger of hell fire." And why should you judge, if you would not be judged in your turn? Insist that between Theosophy and the Theosophical Society there is no difference, and forthwith you lay the system of Christianity and its very essence open to the same charges, only in a more serious form. "

  http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/aKEY.htm

  What are your views about the above?
  Are you disagreeing?

  M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: adelasie 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Can we see Obama as Hitler in Mass Psychosis.

  Christina,

  If I understand that your post is serious and that you really wish 
  the list to consider your statements, I must say that your post is 
  evidence of the same blindness and fear that HPB and all great 
  teachers fought throughout the ages. Humanity has a choice: we can 
  choose to reject progress along the path to enlightennent, to turn 
  away from the Light and plunge ourselves again into future eons of 
  man's inhumanity to man, and to all nature, or we can embrace the 
  change that is coming and proceed with love and faith, hope and 
  courage. Theosophy teaches the student to learn to think for himself, 
  and, while you have the right to your opinion, it is important that 
  all other students realize that intellectual manipulation of paranoia 
  and fear-mongering, such as your post consists of, does not 
  necessarily reflect truth. What it points to the most is the old 
  saying, "We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar Light." 

  Theosophhy teaches the that all life is one. There is no them and us, 
  no perpetrator and victim. We are all responsible for the conditions 
  in which we live and for the leaders we have. We are not mindless 
  automata, being led by some diabolical mastermind. Not unless we 
  choose to be. This theory you propound is a good example of exactly 
  the kind of thinking it professes to expose. The evidence is 
  everywhere. Humanity has come to a crossroads and it is time to 
  choose a new direction. This is why theosophy emerged when it did, 
  why so many Great Souls have been working tirelessly to bring the 
  realization to all humanity that it is time to be done with greed and 
  selfishness, fear and dispair. 

  Take courage and take control of your own mind, of your own life. 
  Look within your own heart if you want to know the truth. It is 
  always there. Leave fear and anguish behind and step boldly forward 
  into the Light that awaits us all, if we will only embrace it. 

  Adelaise

  On 20 Jan 2009 at 12:41, christinaleestemaker wrote:

  > 
  > the use of NLP have all to do with it too.
  > Christina
  > 
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > Christina,
  > >
  > > What does all this have to do with theosophy?
  > >
  > > Adelasie
  > >
  > > On 19 Jan 2009 at 20:53, christinaleestemaker wrote:
  > >
  > > >
  > > > Obama's speeches are a mass of mind-control techniques and Neuro-
  > > > Linguistic-Programming, or NLP, and they are carefully
  > constructed to
  > > > implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the viewer. Click
  > > > here for a description of his psycho-babble, headed An
  > Examination of
  > > > Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches.
  >

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