Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00507)

As Cass wrote before we cannot stay sitting in caves.
On that I can also say; we cannot stay sitting on a rose cloud above  
earth; for then we have to come back on earth ever and ever till we 
have learned how to manage earth.
And I will not say Obama is the one who brings wonders, he is not 
Messias, what a lot of people think now.
Also it is good to see things in other way as they were presenting.
But we will see what happens!
Personally I can agree with the saying...:Yes, WE CAN !!!!

And younger people know, I can see on my son, he say things, we 
needed to learn from HPB and others.
They don't need theosophy, they life from inside outside.And that is 
it.
Christina





--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@...> wrote:
>
> Christina,
> 
> Thanks for clearing that up. It is a good idea, when you post to 
the 
> list, to differentiate between things you write that are original 
to 
> you, and things that come from another source. It is pretty 
shocking 
> to read something so dark that seems as if it comes from a member 
of 
> the list. 
> 
> Indeed it is a good thing to be aware of what is happening, what is 
> being said. But it is also good to point out how this fits into 
> theosophy. Think of the many, possibly hundreds or more, people who 
> read this list and never post. Young people, students, people who 
are 
> touching theosophy for the first time, most of whom don't feel they 
> know enough or are comfortable enough discussing these issues to 
post 
> in public. "Don't we owe it to them to be clear about what we are 
> saying and to give them a fair representation of what theosophy is 
> all about?
> 
> Adelasie
> 
> On 21 Jan 2009 at 11:17, christinaleestemaker wrote:
> 
> > 
> > In the first place that sory is not my meaning but from Davidicke.
> > In the other place I want to see what other think of that and in 
the
> > third place I think that NLP use is the point of black magic, for
> > this sixth principle HPB just warned us.
> > 
> > We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar Light."
> > 
> > That are your words and Idon't agree with that.
> > 
> > If you see the reaction of Martin after the posting of this, you 
see
> > what he have to see over NLP and I do totally agree with him.
> > If used in a personal way it is bad and selfish , there are other
> > ways in which that is not.
> > Christina
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Christina,
> > >
> > > If I understand that your post is serious and that you really 
wish
> > > the list to consider your statements, I must say that your post 
is
> > > evidence of the same blindness and fear that HPB and all great
> > > teachers fought throughout the ages. Humanity has a choice: we 
can
> > > choose to reject progress along the path to enlightennent, to 
turn
> > > away from the Light and plunge ourselves again into future eons 
of
> > > man's inhumanity to man, and to all nature, or we can embrace 
the
> > > change that is coming and proceed with love and faith, hope and
> > > courage. Theosophy teaches the student to learn to think for
> > himself,
> > > and, while you have the right to your opinion, it is important 
that
> > > all other students realize that intellectual manipulation of
> > paranoia
> > > and fear-mongering, such as your post consists of, does not
> > > necessarily reflect truth. What it points to the most is the old
> > > saying, "We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar 
Light."
> > >
> > > Theosophhy teaches the that all life is one. There is no them 
and
> > us,
> > > no perpetrator and victim. We are all responsible for the
> > conditions
> > > in which we live and for the leaders we have. We are not 
mindless
> > > automata, being led by some diabolical mastermind. Not unless we
> > > choose to be. This theory you propound is a good example of 
exactly
> > > the kind of thinking it professes to expose. The evidence is
> > > everywhere. Humanity has come to a crossroads and it is time to
> > > choose a new direction. This is why theosophy emerged when it 
did,
> > > why so many Great Souls have been working tirelessly to bring 
the
> > > realization to all humanity that it is time to be done with 
greed
> > and
> > > selfishness, fear and dispair.
> > >
> > > Take courage and take control of your own mind, of your own 
life.
> > > Look within your own heart if you want to know the truth. It is
> > > always there. Leave fear and anguish behind and step boldly 
forward
> > > into the Light that awaits us all, if we will only embrace it.
> > >
> > > Adelaise
> > >
> > > On 20 Jan 2009 at 12:41, christinaleestemaker wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > the use of NLP have all to do with it too.
> > > > Christina
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Christina,
> > > > >
> > > > > What does all this have to do with theosophy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Adelasie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 19 Jan 2009 at 20:53, christinaleestemaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Obama's speeches are a mass of mind-control techniques and
> > Neuro-
> > > > > > Linguistic-Programming, or NLP, and they are carefully
> > > > constructed to
> > > > > > implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the 
viewer.
> > Click
> > > > > > here for a description of his psycho-babble, headed An
> > > > Examination of
> > > > > > Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches.
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>