Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00504)

Christina,

Thanks for clearing that up. It is a good idea, when you post to the 
list, to differentiate between things you write that are original to 
you, and things that come from another source. It is pretty shocking 
to read something so dark that seems as if it comes from a member of 
the list. 

Indeed it is a good thing to be aware of what is happening, what is 
being said. But it is also good to point out how this fits into 
theosophy. Think of the many, possibly hundreds or more, people who 
read this list and never post. Young people, students, people who are 
touching theosophy for the first time, most of whom don't feel they 
know enough or are comfortable enough discussing these issues to post 
in public. "Don't we owe it to them to be clear about what we are 
saying and to give them a fair representation of what theosophy is 
all about?

Adelasie

On 21 Jan 2009 at 11:17, christinaleestemaker wrote:

> 
> In the first place that sory is not my meaning but from Davidicke.
> In the other place I want to see what other think of that and in the
> third place I think that NLP use is the point of black magic, for
> this sixth principle HPB just warned us.
> 
> We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar Light."
> 
> That are your words and Idon't agree with that.
> 
> If you see the reaction of Martin after the posting of this, you see
> what he have to see over NLP and I do totally agree with him.
> If used in a personal way it is bad and selfish , there are other
> ways in which that is not.
> Christina
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@...> wrote:
> >
> > Christina,
> >
> > If I understand that your post is serious and that you really wish
> > the list to consider your statements, I must say that your post is
> > evidence of the same blindness and fear that HPB and all great
> > teachers fought throughout the ages. Humanity has a choice: we can
> > choose to reject progress along the path to enlightennent, to turn
> > away from the Light and plunge ourselves again into future eons of
> > man's inhumanity to man, and to all nature, or we can embrace the
> > change that is coming and proceed with love and faith, hope and
> > courage. Theosophy teaches the student to learn to think for
> himself,
> > and, while you have the right to your opinion, it is important that
> > all other students realize that intellectual manipulation of
> paranoia
> > and fear-mongering, such as your post consists of, does not
> > necessarily reflect truth. What it points to the most is the old
> > saying, "We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar Light."
> >
> > Theosophhy teaches the that all life is one. There is no them and
> us,
> > no perpetrator and victim. We are all responsible for the
> conditions
> > in which we live and for the leaders we have. We are not mindless
> > automata, being led by some diabolical mastermind. Not unless we
> > choose to be. This theory you propound is a good example of exactly
> > the kind of thinking it professes to expose. The evidence is
> > everywhere. Humanity has come to a crossroads and it is time to
> > choose a new direction. This is why theosophy emerged when it did,
> > why so many Great Souls have been working tirelessly to bring the
> > realization to all humanity that it is time to be done with greed
> and
> > selfishness, fear and dispair.
> >
> > Take courage and take control of your own mind, of your own life.
> > Look within your own heart if you want to know the truth. It is
> > always there. Leave fear and anguish behind and step boldly forward
> > into the Light that awaits us all, if we will only embrace it.
> >
> > Adelaise
> >
> > On 20 Jan 2009 at 12:41, christinaleestemaker wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > the use of NLP have all to do with it too.
> > > Christina
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Christina,
> > > >
> > > > What does all this have to do with theosophy?
> > > >
> > > > Adelasie
> > > >
> > > > On 19 Jan 2009 at 20:53, christinaleestemaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Obama's speeches are a mass of mind-control techniques and
> Neuro-
> > > > > Linguistic-Programming, or NLP, and they are carefully
> > > constructed to
> > > > > implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the viewer.
> Click
> > > > > here for a description of his psycho-babble, headed An
> > > Examination of
> > > > > Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches.
> > >
> >
> 
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