Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00404)

I beg to differ. You are mistaken, Alex.

I heard, Dugpas are too busy working on our voting rights and other secret
projects, they have no time for this group. Also, no one respects them here.

mkr


On 10/14/08, alex <alexmorgan777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Hi Morten good to see you here, and thank you for those Sufi stories.
>
> I agree with you and I think that's what I've done, I confronted him.
> My English may not be the smoothest but you don't have to worry about
> me, things don't really bother me anymore.
> I'm surprised no one has noticed but there is a dugpa in the center
> of our living room who makes fun of and opposes everything we live
> and breathe for (or at least try to). This is not just about me and
> those who have passively settled for this circus here. Sure, I can
> clear my inbox in seconds from all this `theos-talk', read only from
> some and go do something more useful. But imagine what a newbie to
> theosophy would think of the people in here letting this person run
> wild like this, worse than that mistake him for an aspiring
> Theosophist?
>
> I will show you a recent example of what goes on:
> (I don't know if this person visited this group or not)
>
> "Blavatsky & all her cohorts are simply 'Satanists' whether they're
> aware of it or not.
> the occult is from the pit of Hell.
> Blavatsky was just another demon possessed lost soul who led & leads
> many other lost souls to their damnation."
>
> If I was the moderator I wouldn't think twice of removing a
> distracting cancer from the body.
>
> Alex
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, "Morten
> Nymann Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Alex
> >
> > I am not the moderator on this list.
> > But, I agree, that this joke from Chuck went too far. Do you not
> agree on that Chuck?
> >
> > Yet, it is also true, to some of us, that a number of Chuck's e-
> mails are in fact quite theosophical in content. If you can - not -
> find any of his e-mails to be theosophical in content, please let me
> know.
> >
> > The fact that is that you tell me and others, that you grow
> impatient, because you completely disagree with all Chuck writes in
> his e-mails - and you therefore need to delete them.
> >
> > I will tell you, that If I had to delete all those e-mails I
> thought to be - no good, I would problably be very busy. :-)
> Therefore try to read the story THE REMEDY in the below.
> >
> > May I ask: Why do you not talk with Chuck about his behaviour
> instead. That is a more theosophical and altruistic idea. Do you not
> agree?
> >
> >
> > Here are two Sufi stories for you to consider.......
> > I do hope, that you will calm down a bit after reading it.
> >
> > - - - - - - -
> >
> > 1.
> > THE REMEDY
> > Some say that Nasrudin lived in the time of the great conqueror
> Tamerlane, and was one of his advisers.
> >
> > One day, so goes the tale, Timur the Lame called the Mulla and said:
> > 'Nasrudin, the Empire is full of slanderers. How can we stop their
> evil work?'
> > 'You can never stop crime unless you punish all the criminals,'
> said Nasrudin.
> > 'You mean the slanderers?'
> > 'And their accomplices - those who listen to them,' the Mulla
> reminded him
> >
> > - - - - - - -
> >
> > 2.
> > WHOM TO BELIEVE
> > Mulla Nasrudin had an insatiable craving for knowledge, but did not
> seem to know what knowledge was. As a result he asked a local wise
> man the stupidest questions, always based upon random assumptions
> > One day the Mull a noticed that his donkey was Inissing. He ran to
> the wise man 5 house.
> > 'Well, Mulla, what is it this time?'
> > 'My donkey is gone! Where can I find it?'
> > The wise man was quite fed up with the Mulla. 'Nasrudin,' he
> said, 'the donkey has run off, turned into a man and been ap-pointed
> the magistrate in the next town.'
> > Thanking the wise man for his information, the Mulla trudged to the
> court. There sat the magistrate, and Nasrudin shook his fist at him:
> > 'Come home at once, you foolish animal!'
> > The magistrate was furious. 'Who are you and how dare you talk to
> me like that? I'll have you sent to the cells!'
> > 'I'm the well-known Mulla Nasrudin, and I have it on the best
> authority that you are my donkey.'
> > 'That's ridiculous. Nobody in his right senses would credit such a
> thing!'
> > Nasrudin drew himself up to his full height. 'Say what you like he
> said, 'I prefer to believe the statement of a wise man rather than
> that of a donkey.'
> > Wisdom, according to the Sufis, can only be acquired when one is
> ready for it: though people insist on seeking enlightenment as and
> when they want it. The Sufi's task, however, includes trying to
> impart knowledge in the right way, at the right time, to the people
> who are able to receive it:
> >
> > - - - - - - -
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Sufilight
> > (Who saw HPB materialise in front of him year 2008.)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: alex
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:28 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Re: "...we have to preach and popularise a
> knowledge of theosophy."
> >
> >
> > Is this funny for everyone here?
> > I'm not sure why the moderator is passively ok with this and even
> > allows you to showoff your website. Is he still alive? I don't
> know
> > about others but I'm starting to get tired of deleting your
> messages
> > from my inbox.
> > This crap is not Theosophy, this is just bored goofing around
> that
> > spoils things for others, and makes the new comer puke on the
> whole
> > group and leave.
> > The Unity of Mind is lacking in here already, I don't think we
> need
> > to see this nonsense anymore.
> >
> > Chuck, why don't you try to be like Milarepa and turn things
> around,
> > become the first Enlightened man in modern times to abandon the
> path
> > of sorcery and black magic?
> > Think about it Chuck, you will increase the membership, peoples
> > participation and get all our votes if you choose to run and
> > promulgate the DOCTRINE of the Buddhas!
> > What do you think? :)
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Drpsionic@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, the very first thing we have to do is get rid of those
> obsolete
> > ideas of
> > > purity, self-denial, charity, etc and concentrate on finding
> what
> > really is
> > > going on.
> > >
> > > Chuck the heretic
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/11/2008 4:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight
> Time,
> > > danielhcaldwell@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "For our doctrines to practically react on the so called moral
> code
> > > or the ideas of truthfulness, purity, self-denial, charity,
> etc.,
> > we
> > > have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theosophy."
> > >
> > > Quoted from a letter from the Chohan
> > > _http://www.theosocihttp://www.theoshttp://wwhttp://www._
> > > (http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-choh.htm)
> > >
> > > So exactly what do we preach and popularise?
> > >
> > > Are there certain teachings that constitute this "theosophy"?
> And
> > if
> > > so, what are these teachings?
> > >
> > > And where do we find these teachings?
> > >
> > > And how do we learn about them and study them so that in turn we
> > > can "preach and popularise" them?
> > >
> > > And who is "we"? The leaders of the TS? Elected officials of the
> > > TS? Any member of the TS?
> > >
> > > And remember there is more than one TS or theosophical
> organization
> > > or association.
> > >
> > > Can non-members preach and popularise this theosophy?
> > >
> > > And in this same letter, the Chohan tells us:
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------
> > > The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one, must, --
> > > supported by such evidence as we are preparing to give become
> > > ultimately triumphant as every other truth. Yet it is absolutely
> > > necessary to inculcate it gradually enforcing its theories,
> > > unimpeachable facts for those who know, with direct inferences
> > > deducted from and corroborated by the evidence furnished by
> modern
> > > exact science.... Theos-sophia, Divine Wisdom...is a synonym of
> > > truth....
> > > -------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > This is quite a CLAIM.
> > >
> > > "The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one...."
> > >
> > > So what is this DOCTRINE that is "the ONLY true one" and where
> can
> > we
> > > find an exposition of this teaching?
> > >
> > > Is it to be found in THE SECRET DOCTRINE written by H.P.
> Blavatsky?
> > >
> > > Or can it be found in C.W. Leadbeater's and Annie Besant's "Man,
> > > Whence, How, and Whither: A Record of Clairvoyant
> Investigation"W
> > >
> > > Or in a book by Alice Bailey? or....in a book by Elizabeth
> Claire
> > > Prophet?
> > >
> > > If "we" are to popularise a knowledge of Theosophy, what
> exactly do
> > > we popularise?
> > >
> > > Is reincarnation part of this DOCTRINE?
> > >
> > > What if I start popularising the teaching of reincarnation that
> > > includes the provision that humans can sometimes be reborn as
> > > animals?
> > >
> > > Am I faithfully transmitting the DOCTRINE?
> > >
> > > And who is to say that I am faithfully or not transmitting the
> > > DOCTRINE?
> > >
> > > In other words, who is to say what the REAL, TRUE "doctrine" is?
> > >
> > > The objects of the TS doesn't tell us what the DOCTRINE is all
> > about,
> > > so where and how does one [an inquirer, a newcomer] discover
> what
> > the
> > > DOCTRINE is that the Chohan seems to hold in SUCH high regard?
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > > _http://hpb.cc_ (http://hpb.cc/)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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