Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00278)

ROFL...or...could it be u r being serious??? OMG!

On 12 Oct 2008 at 11:47, Drpsionic@aol.com wrote:

> 
> Actually I love it when people get steamed at my ideas. It is sort of 
> like
> they suddenly get "kick me" signs taped to their backs.
> 
> The problem with some folks is that they think that being a 
> Theosophist is
> like being some damned fool Baptist, and everyone sits around 
> agreeing with
> everything. No no no. You have to question everything, including your
> fundamental premises. The Masters are not to be worshipped, their 
> words are not
> holy writ. The mere fact that the Chohan said something does not make 
> it true.
> It only means that he was in a rotten mood when he wrote it.
> 
> There are times that if I had my way I would burn all those musty old 
> books
> because there are times when it seems that would be the only way to 
> get light
> out of them.
> 
> In any event, I will continue to follow my old philosophy of 
> rhetoric, which
> says that if someone says you have gone too far, you have not yet 
> gone far
> enough.
> 
> Chuck the Heretic
> 
> 
> In a message dated 10/12/2008 9:33:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> mkr777@gmail.com writes:
> 
> Welcome to the group. I am not the moderator either.
> 
> This group has been around for more than a decade and it takes time 
> for
> newbees to settle down here. From time to time you will find gems 
> here that
> you cannot find anywhere else. Patience will pay heavy rewards in the 
> long
> run.
> 
> mkr
> 
> On 10/12/08, alex <_alexmorgan777@alexmorgan7_
> (mailto:alexmorgan777@hotmail.com) > wrote:
> >
> > Is this funny for everyone here?
> > I'm not sure why the moderator is passively ok with this and even
> > allows you to showoff your website. Is he still alive? I don't know
> > about others but I'm starting to get tired of deleting your messages
> > from my inbox.
> > This crap is not Theosophy, this is just bored goofing around that
> > spoils things for others, and makes the new comer puke on the whole
> > group and leave.
> > The Unity of Mind is lacking in here already, I don't think we need
> > to see this nonsense anymore.
> >
> > Chuck, why don't you try to be like Milarepa and turn things around,
> > become the first Enlightened man in modern times to abandon the path
> > of sorcery and black magic?
> > Think about it Chuck, you will increase the membership, peoples
> > participation and get all our votes if you choose to run and
> > promulgate the DOCTRINE of the Buddhas!
> > What do you think? :)
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > --- In _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-
> talk@yahoogroups.com)
> <theos-talk%theos-talk%<WBthe>,
> > Drpsionic@.. Drpsionic@.
> > >
> > > Ok, the very first thing we have to do is get rid of those 
> obsolete
> > ideas of
> > > purity, self-denial, charity, etc and concentrate on finding what
> > really is
> > > going on.
> > >
> > > Chuck the heretic
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/11/2008 4:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > danielhcaldwell@ danielhcal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "For our doctrines to practically react on the so called moral 
> code
> > > or the ideas of truthfulness, purity, self-denial, charity, etc.,
> > we
> > > have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theosophy."
> > >
> > > Quoted from a letter from the Chohan
> > > __http://www.theosoci http://www.http://wwwhttp://wwhttp://_
> (http://www.theosoci http://www.theoshttp://wwhttp://www._)
> > > (_http://www.theosoci http://www.theoshttp://wwhttp://www._
> (http://www.theosoci ety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-choh.htm) )
> > >
> > > So exactly what do we preach and popularise?
> > >
> > > Are there certain teachings that constitute this "theosophy"? And
> > if
> > > so, what are these teachings?
> > >
> > > And where do we find these teachings?
> > >
> > > And how do we learn about them and study them so that in turn we
> > > can "preach and popularise" them?
> > >
> > > And who is "we"? The leaders of the TS? Elected officials of the
> > > TS? Any member of the TS?
> > >
> > > And remember there is more than one TS or theosophical 
> organization
> > > or association.
> > >
> > > Can non-members preach and popularise this theosophy?
> > >
> > > And in this same letter, the Chohan tells us:
> > >
> > > ------------ ---- ---- ---- ----
> > > The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one, must, --
> > > supported by such evidence as we are preparing to give become
> > > ultimately triumphant as every other truth. Yet it is absolutely
> > > necessary to inculcate it gradually enforcing its theories,
> > > unimpeachable facts for those who know, with direct inferences
> > > deducted from and corroborated by the evidence furnished by modern
> > > exact science.... Theos-sophia, Divine Wisdom...is a synonym of
> > > truth....
> > > ------------ ---- ---- ---- ----
> > >
> > > This is quite a CLAIM.
> > >
> > > "The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one...."
> > >
> > > So what is this DOCTRINE that is "the ONLY true one" and where can
> > we
> > > find an exposition of this teaching?
> > >
> > > Is it to be found in THE SECRET DOCTRINE written by H.P. 
> Blavatsky?
> > >
> > > Or can it be found in C.W. Leadbeater's and Annie Besant's "Man,
> > > Whence, How, and Whither: A Record of Clairvoyant Investigation"
> > >
> > > Or in a book by Alice Bailey? or....in a book by Elizabeth Claire
> > > Prophet?
> > >
> > > If "we" are to popularise a knowledge of Theosophy, what exactly 
> do
> > > we popularise?
> > >
> > > Is reincarnation part of this DOCTRINE?
> > >
> > > What if I start popularising the teaching of reincarnation that
> > > includes the provision that humans can sometimes be reborn as
> > > animals?
> > >
> > > Am I faithfully transmitting the DOCTRINE?
> > >
> > > And who is to say that I am faithfully or not transmitting the
> > > DOCTRINE?
> > >
> > > In other words, who is to say what the REAL, TRUE "doctrine" is?
> > >
> > > The objects of the TS doesn't tell us what the DOCTRINE is all
> > about,
> > > so where and how does one [an inquirer, a newcomer] discover what
> > the
> > > DOCTRINE is that the Chohan seems to hold in SUCH high regard?
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > > __http://hpb.cc__ (http://hpb.cc_/) (_http://hpb.cc/_ 
> (http://hpb.cc/) )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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