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Re: Theos-World Re: "...we have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theos...

Oct 12, 2008 01:01 PM
by Morten Nymann Olesen


LOL
So you are a little "fire-philosopher" are you?



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Drpsionic@aol.com 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:47 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: "...we have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theos...


  Actually I love it when people get steamed at my ideas. It is sort of like 
  they suddenly get "kick me" signs taped to their backs.

  The problem with some folks is that they think that being a Theosophist is 
  like being some damned fool Baptist, and everyone sits around agreeing with 
  everything. No no no. You have to question everything, including your 
  fundamental premises. The Masters are not to be worshipped, their words are not 
  holy writ. The mere fact that the Chohan said something does not make it true. 
  It only means that he was in a rotten mood when he wrote it.

  There are times that if I had my way I would burn all those musty old books 
  because there are times when it seems that would be the only way to get light 
  out of them.

  In any event, I will continue to follow my old philosophy of rhetoric, which 
  says that if someone says you have gone too far, you have not yet gone far 
  enough.

  Chuck the Heretic


  In a message dated 10/12/2008 9:33:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  mkr777@gmail.com writes:

  Welcome to the group. I am not the moderator either.

  This group has been around for more than a decade and it takes time for
  newbees to settle down here. From time to time you will find gems here that
  you cannot find anywhere else. Patience will pay heavy rewards in the long
  run.

  mkr

  On 10/12/08, alex <_alexmorgan777@alexmorgan7_ 
  (mailto:alexmorgan777@hotmail.com) > wrote:
  >
  > Is this funny for everyone here?
  > I'm not sure why the moderator is passively ok with this and even
  > allows you to showoff your website. Is he still alive? I don't know
  > about others but I'm starting to get tired of deleting your messages
  > from my inbox.
  > This crap is not Theosophy, this is just bored goofing around that
  > spoils things for others, and makes the new comer puke on the whole
  > group and leave.
  > The Unity of Mind is lacking in here already, I don't think we need
  > to see this nonsense anymore.
  >
  > Chuck, why don't you try to be like Milarepa and turn things around,
  > become the first Enlightened man in modern times to abandon the path
  > of sorcery and black magic?
  > Think about it Chuck, you will increase the membership, peoples
  > participation and get all our votes if you choose to run and
  > promulgate the DOCTRINE of the Buddhas!
  > What do you think? :)
  >
  > Alex
  >
  > --- In _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
  <theos-talk%theos-talk%<WBthe>,
  > Drpsionic@.. Drpsionic@.
  > >
  > > Ok, the very first thing we have to do is get rid of those obsolete
  > ideas of
  > > purity, self-denial, charity, etc and concentrate on finding what
  > really is
  > > going on.
  > >
  > > Chuck the heretic
  > >
  > >
  > > In a message dated 10/11/2008 4:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
  > > danielhcaldwell@ danielhcal
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > "For our doctrines to practically react on the so called moral code
  > > or the ideas of truthfulness, purity, self-denial, charity, etc.,
  > we
  > > have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theosophy."
  > >
  > > Quoted from a letter from the Chohan
  > > __http://www.theosocihttp://www.http://wwwhttp://wwhttp://_ 
  (http://www.theosocihttp://www.theoshttp://wwhttp://www._) 
  > > (_http://www.theosocihttp://www.theoshttp://wwhttp://www._ 
  (http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-choh.htm) )
  > >
  > > So exactly what do we preach and popularise?
  > >
  > > Are there certain teachings that constitute this "theosophy"? And
  > if
  > > so, what are these teachings?
  > >
  > > And where do we find these teachings?
  > >
  > > And how do we learn about them and study them so that in turn we
  > > can "preach and popularise" them?
  > >
  > > And who is "we"? The leaders of the TS? Elected officials of the
  > > TS? Any member of the TS?
  > >
  > > And remember there is more than one TS or theosophical organization
  > > or association.
  > >
  > > Can non-members preach and popularise this theosophy?
  > >
  > > And in this same letter, the Chohan tells us:
  > >
  > > ------------ ---- ---- ---- ---- 
  > > The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one, must, --
  > > supported by such evidence as we are preparing to give become
  > > ultimately triumphant as every other truth. Yet it is absolutely
  > > necessary to inculcate it gradually enforcing its theories,
  > > unimpeachable facts for those who know, with direct inferences
  > > deducted from and corroborated by the evidence furnished by modern
  > > exact science.... Theos-sophia, Divine Wisdom...is a synonym of
  > > truth....
  > > ------------ ---- ---- ---- ---- 
  > >
  > > This is quite a CLAIM.
  > >
  > > "The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one...."
  > >
  > > So what is this DOCTRINE that is "the ONLY true one" and where can
  > we
  > > find an exposition of this teaching?
  > >
  > > Is it to be found in THE SECRET DOCTRINE written by H.P. Blavatsky?
  > >
  > > Or can it be found in C.W. Leadbeater's and Annie Besant's "Man,
  > > Whence, How, and Whither: A Record of Clairvoyant Investigation" 
  > >
  > > Or in a book by Alice Bailey? or....in a book by Elizabeth Claire
  > > Prophet?
  > >
  > > If "we" are to popularise a knowledge of Theosophy, what exactly do
  > > we popularise?
  > >
  > > Is reincarnation part of this DOCTRINE?
  > >
  > > What if I start popularising the teaching of reincarnation that
  > > includes the provision that humans can sometimes be reborn as
  > > animals?
  > >
  > > Am I faithfully transmitting the DOCTRINE?
  > >
  > > And who is to say that I am faithfully or not transmitting the
  > > DOCTRINE?
  > >
  > > In other words, who is to say what the REAL, TRUE "doctrine" is?
  > >
  > > The objects of the TS doesn't tell us what the DOCTRINE is all
  > about,
  > > so where and how does one [an inquirer, a newcomer] discover what
  > the
  > > DOCTRINE is that the Chohan seems to hold in SUCH high regard?
  > >
  > > Daniel
  > > __http://hpb.cc__ (http://hpb.cc_/) (_http://hpb.cc/_ (http://hpb.cc/) )
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
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