Theos-Talk Archives (July 2008 Message tt00190)

 Actually we work on it a lot.? It isn't like we are going to ask their permission.

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From: MarieMAJ41@aol.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Dynasty subverting Democracy (through FEAR)






















    

            
Regarding the ES , I think that it was originally started in part to do work of the 3rd Object of the Society. That object has been downplayed, and now only ES members are working on that. The outer members don't even ask about the 3rd object, so well has that?been ghosted and obfuscated.



Marie



-----Original Message-----

From: Konstantin Zaitzev <kay_ziatz@yahoo.com>

To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 3:55 am

Subject: Theos-World Re: Dynasty subverting Democracy (through FEAR)



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand" <AnandGholap@...> wrote:



> When you have same head for ES and TS, there is little democracy

> because ES members are supposed to support their ES head. This

> election was interesting because it appears that many ES members

> voted against their head Radha.



There's a problem with ES. ES is considered a closed order, where the 

members take some vows which they don't disclose to the outer world. 

Let's suppose that among them there is a vow of loyality to the head 

of organization.

If the president of TS is a ES member, the ES head can order him 

something and the president shall act not according to the interests 

of the members which democraticly elected him, but to the orders of 

the ES head.

This problem was "elegantly" solved in TS by combination of president 

and ES head offices. It makes the president free of any outer control, 

as he is a head of both organizations.

Two other possibilities: (1) dissolve ES or (2) make provision in the 

Rules that TS higher officers cannot be members of ES, are more hard 

to put into practice, for (1) ES can continue to run secretly in spite 

of its dissolution; and (2) the candidate can hide the fact of his 

membership in ES, which ES won't disclose.



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