Theos-Talk Archives (June 2006 Message tt00360)

Friends,

Yes.

I carefully read the book by GRS Mead and it's really ilmportant in my view.

Carlos. 

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Data:Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:05:49 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: JESUS & HPB

> 
> 
> Hi Cass and Carlos,
> I am at present reading the book by G.R.S Mead called 
> Did Jesus live 100 bc?
> http://www.christianorigins.com/mead/
> 
> I am only 100 pages into it at the moment but so far its been well worth the read, a real 
> scholarly work that has many interesting bits of historical information on the formation of 
> the Gospels and early Christianity, the formation of the Talmud and how the church tried 
> to destroy it.
> 
> I've also been watching Bart D Ehrman's DVD course called :
> `Lost Christianities: Christian Scriptures and the Battles over Authentication"
> 
> http://www.teach12.com/ttc/assets/coursedescriptions
> 
> Its been great getting a perspective from modern scholarship !
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Perry
> 
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> > Yes, I know and understand the Jesus Myth. 
> > 
> > I am suggesting that the elder church fathers, plagarised the life of Apollonius of Tyana 
> as being Jesus the Nazarene. 
> > 
> > Other suggestions include Jesus, a simple but spiritual man, was a physical vessel only 
> for the Lord Maitreya to speak through Jesus. Jesus consciously agreed to lay down his 
> personality (his lower self) at these times.
> > 
> > HPB states that Jesus the Son of God and the crucifixion is a Myth, suggesting that he 
> may have been a master who was willing to "be used" by the higher forces for the greater 
> good of humanity. After three years or when the teachings had taken root, Jesus the 
> Master, was not crucified but returned to his life with Mary, endowed with new knowledge, 
> but still, only a Man.
> > 
> > Another suggestion is that the Crucifixion of Christ, is a symbol of the 5th initiation of a 
> Master. No longer nailed to matter - resurrected in spirit. After this initiation it is almost 
> impossible for the Adept to be seduced by the Black Brotherhood.
> > 
> > So I guess my question is, if Jesus was a legend, who was the man that performed all the 
> miracles, etc? Or is that also a legend? Apollonius, who has been given no credit did 
> perform all the miracles that were placed upon Jesus.
> > 
> > Cass
> > 
> > carlosaveline wrote: Cass,
> > 
> > Not a carpenter. It is rather a complex picture. Even GRS Mead gives just a fragment of 
> possibilities. But Jesus' life as given in the New Testament is a legend; that is said by HPB 
> and almost consensus for esoteric philosophy students.
> > 
> > Regards, Carlos. 
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> > Data:Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:18:39 -0700 (PDT)
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> > Assunto:Re: Theos-World JESUS & HPB
> > 
> > > Hi Carlos
> > > If Jesus lived 100BC, was he a simple carpenter who had a small following, but was 
> not an Adept or a World Teacher?
> > > Cass
> > > 
> > > carlosaveline wrote: 
> > > Friends, 
> > > 
> > > As to Jesus, I would like to say that in the 1920s' (I am not in my library now...) TPH 
> edition of the book "The Paradoxes of Highest Occultism", by Eliphas Levi, which was 
> prepared by C. Jinarajadasa, there are important footnotes by one of the Masters. One of 
> the footnotes is about Jesus having lived 100 before Christian Era, etc. 
> > > 
> > > This book by E. Levi is now almost forgotten -- yet it is most valuable. specially with 
> the footnotes by the "Eminent Occultist".
> > > 
> > > E. Levi was a lay chela and had meetings with a Mahatma, with Bulwer Lytton and 
> other students in London in the 1860s. The meetings are mentioned in the Mahatma 
> Letters. 
> > > 
> > > And, of course, there is the book by GRS Mead "Did Jesus Live 100 B.C.?"; and HPB's 
> Writings on the New Testament, etc. 
> > > 
> > > Regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline. 
> > > 
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> > > Data:Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:41:34 -0600
> > > 
> > > Assunto:Theos-World Update #2: A place for Theosophists to work together to create 
> a Movie about JESUS
> > > 
> > > > Update #2:
> > > > A place for Theosophists to work together to create a Movie about JESUS
> > > > 
> > > > This second "update" is to let everyone know that since my first
> > > > "update" here (on June 1st) about this "place", when there were a total
> > > > of 19 postings on it, 6 additional postings have been added, bringing
> > > > the total to 25.
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> > > > =================================
> > > > This is the title of the main QuickTopic page that I created, and the
> > > > link to it:
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> > > > A place for Theosophists to work together to create a Movie about JESUS
> > > > http://www.quicktopic.com/37/H/xXY4ny4eB6v/p-1.-1
> > > > 
> > > > Using the same title, here is the link to the place where the 24
> > > > different files of the 24 articles about Jesus have been individually
> > > > uploaded to their QuickTopic instant discussion spaces, and the 24
> > > > different links to them:
> > > > 
> > > > A place for Theosophists to work together to create a Movie about JESUS
> > > > http://www.quicktopic.com/share?s=M4JL
> > > > =================================
> > > > 
> > > > You may want to either play a part in the above proposed project, or
> > > > simply keep track of what develops, or tell some other theosophists and
> > > > theosophical organizations about it.
> > > > 
> > > > John DeSantis
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> > > > 
> > > > These are the links to the 3 index pages on my theosophy web site:
> > > > http://www.wisdomworld.org
> > > > http://www.wisdomworld.org/setting.html
> > > > http://www.wisdomworld.org/additional/index.html
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> > > > And this is the link to what I personally consider my "Universal
> > > > Brotherhood" project for all of humanity -- one that I have envisioned
> > > > myself for the last 26 years and am trying to get going:
> > > > http://www.PublicAndPrivateEnterprise.org
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