Theos-Talk Archives (June 2006 Message tt00357)

Hi Cass and Carlos,
I am at present reading the book by G.R.S Mead called 
Did Jesus live 100 bc?
http://www.christianorigins.com/mead/

I am only 100 pages into it at the moment but so far its been well worth the read, a real 
scholarly work that has many interesting bits of historical information on the formation of 
the Gospels and early Christianity, the formation of the Talmud and how the church tried 
to destroy it.

I've also been watching Bart D Ehrman's DVD course called :
 `Lost Christianities: Christian Scriptures and the Battles over Authentication"

http://www.teach12.com/ttc/assets/coursedescriptions

Its been great getting a perspective from modern scholarship !

Cheers

Perry





> Yes, I know and understand the Jesus Myth.  
> 
> I am suggesting that the elder church fathers, plagarised the life of Apollonius of Tyana 
as being Jesus the Nazarene.  
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> Other suggestions include Jesus, a simple but spiritual man, was a physical vessel only 
for the Lord Maitreya to speak through Jesus.  Jesus consciously agreed to lay down his 
personality (his lower self) at these times.
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> HPB states that Jesus the Son of God and the crucifixion is a Myth, suggesting that he 
may have been a master who was willing to "be used" by the higher forces for the greater 
good of humanity.  After three years or when the teachings had taken root, Jesus the 
Master, was not crucified but returned to his life with Mary, endowed with new knowledge, 
but still, only a Man.
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> Another suggestion is that the Crucifixion of Christ, is a symbol of the 5th initiation of a 
Master.   No longer nailed to matter - resurrected in spirit.  After this initiation it is almost 
impossible for the Adept to be seduced by the Black Brotherhood.
> 
> So I guess my question is, if Jesus was a legend, who was the man that performed all the 
miracles, etc?  Or is that also a legend?  Apollonius, who has been given no credit did 
perform all the miracles that were placed upon Jesus.
> 
> Cass
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> carlosaveline <carlosaveline@...> wrote:                               Cass,
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>  Not a carpenter.  It is rather a complex picture. Even GRS Mead gives just a fragment of 
possibilities.  But Jesus' life as given in the New Testament is a legend; that is said by HPB 
and almost consensus for esoteric philosophy students.
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>  Regards,  Carlos.  
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>  Data:Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:18:39 -0700 (PDT)
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>  Assunto:Re: Theos-World JESUS & HPB
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>  > Hi Carlos
>  > If Jesus lived 100BC, was he a simple carpenter who had a small following, but was 
not an Adept or a World Teacher?
>  > Cass
>  > 
>  > carlosaveline wrote: 
>  > Friends, 
>  > 
>  > As to Jesus, I would like to say that in the 1920s' (I am not in my library now...) TPH 
edition of the book "The Paradoxes of Highest Occultism", by Eliphas Levi, which was 
prepared by C. Jinarajadasa, there are important footnotes by one of the Masters. One of 
the footnotes is about Jesus having lived 100 before Christian Era, etc. 
>  > 
>  > This book by E. Levi is now almost forgotten -- yet it is most valuable. specially with 
the footnotes by the "Eminent Occultist".
>  > 
>  > E. Levi was a lay chela and had meetings with a Mahatma, with Bulwer Lytton and 
other students in London in the 1860s. The meetings are mentioned in the Mahatma 
Letters. 
>  > 
>  > And, of course, there is the book by GRS Mead "Did Jesus Live 100 B.C.?"; and HPB's 
Writings on the New Testament, etc. 
>  > 
>  > Regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline. 
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>  > Data:Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:41:34 -0600
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>  > Assunto:Theos-World Update #2: A place for Theosophists to work together to create 
a Movie about JESUS
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>  > > Update #2:
>  > > A place for Theosophists to work together to create a Movie about JESUS
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>  > > This second "update" is to let everyone know that since my first
>  > > "update" here (on June 1st) about this "place", when there were a total
>  > > of 19 postings on it, 6 additional postings have been added, bringing
>  > > the total to 25.
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>  > > =================================
>  > > This is the title of the main QuickTopic page that I created, and the
>  > > link to it:
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>  > > A place for Theosophists to work together to create a Movie about JESUS
>  > > http://www.quicktopic.com/37/H/xXY4ny4eB6v/p-1.-1
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>  > > Using the same title, here is the link to the place where the 24
>  > > different files of the 24 articles about Jesus have been individually
>  > > uploaded to their QuickTopic instant discussion spaces, and the 24
>  > > different links to them:
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>  > > A place for Theosophists to work together to create a Movie about JESUS
>  > > http://www.quicktopic.com/share?s=M4JL
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>  > > You may want to either play a part in the above proposed project, or
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>  > > And this is the link to what I personally consider my "Universal
>  > > Brotherhood" project for all of humanity -- one that I have envisioned
>  > > myself for the last 26 years and am trying to get going:
>  > > http://www.PublicAndPrivateEnterprise.org
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