Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00602)

Dear Friends,

Again, it is enough to look at the fruits of Annie Besant's and C.W. Leadbeater's Occultism to see the difference with the ULT. 

As to this speculation of Daniel's,  for instance --  

"IF Mr. Crosbie believed he was given permission by the dead HPB or 
 the dead Judge or the Mahatmas to establish the D.E.S. and reprint 
 HPB's Instructions, then would he be guilty of violating his pledge?"

It makes no sense. 

Daniel has no source and no element to state that Mr. Crosbie -- by the way a Capricornian in his Sun sign -- indulged in occult fancies. 

Robert Crosbie was very much modest and down-to-earth.  But he was a
hard-worker, as Capricornians often are.  And he knew what the authentic Teachings were.  Yes, that he knew. 
 
Best regards,  Carlos. 




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Assunto:Theos-World The basic issues and questions about Besant and Crosbie

> Here are the basic issues and questions discussed
> in the article which Carlos decided to bring to
> the attention of Theos-Talk readers:
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> IF Mrs. Besant was guilty of what Mr. Garrigues and associates 
> accused her, then is it not equally fair to at least pose the 
> following questions?
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> Did Mr. Robert Crosbie also violate his own original 'solemn' E.S. 
> pledge by reissuing (through the DES) Blavatsky's esoteric 
> instructions to new students under an oath of secrecy? 
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> If Mrs. Besant was guilty of breaking her pledge, why not also Mr. 
> Crosbie?
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> Did Mr. Crosbie violate his original pledges by allowing other 
> people to have copies of Blavatsky's & Judge's esoteric 
> instructions? 
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> Who gave Mr. Crosbie the authority or right to disregard his 
> original pledges & offer these instructions to new students? 
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> Did Mr. Crosbie believe and claim that he was in contact with the 
> dead Blavatsky, the deceased Judge and the Mahatmas receiving their 
> permission to start the Dzyan Esoteric School and reissue H.P.B.'s 
> esoteric instructions, etc. in 1909?....
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> It is clear H.P.B. issued the esoteric instructions at the direction 
> of the Masters. But years after the deaths of both H.P.B. and Judge, 
> who gave Robert Crosbie the authority or right to go against his 
> pledges & reissue H.P.B.'s esoteric instructions to new students 
> under an oath of silence and secrecy? 
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> Did Mr Crosbie believe that he was following in the esoteric 
> footsteps of Blavatsky and Judge?
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> IF Mr. Crosbie believed he was given permission by the dead HPB or 
> the dead Judge or the Mahatmas to establish the D.E.S. and reprint 
> HPB's Instructions, then would he be guilty of violating his pledge?
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> But the SAME QUESTION should be asked of Mrs. Besant....
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> Did she ALSO believe she was in contact with the dead HPB and/or the 
> Masters and did she believe that they gave her permission to reprint 
> the Instructions in THE SECRET DOCTRINE, Volume III?
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> If she believed this was the case, then would she be guilty of what 
> the Theosophy Company writers accused her of?
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> Will Carlos deal with these questions in a straightforward manner or 
> ignore them and try to distract the reader???
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