Re: Theos-World Does a Clone have a Soul?
Nov 16, 2005 07:38 AM
by Piali Mukherjee
It is always said that the age of the body has little to do with age of the
soul. Is there a way to know one's age of the soul?
Please guide :)
Let the inner light shine brighter,
On 11/12/05, Piali Mukherjee <email@example.com> wrote:
> Hi Eldon,
> your letter is really enchanting.It means that the himan body is created
> first and then the soul comes to live in it.When does the descending of
> soul occur in the body?does it have a physical event corresponding to it ?
> On 11/12/05, MarieMAJ41@aol.com <MarieMAJ41@aol.com> wrote:
> > In a message dated 10/20/2005 8:27:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> > firstname.lastname@example.org writes:
> > That's one version of what the traditional Christians might say. It's
> > not
> > what we'd teach people wanting to learn Theosophy.
> > The theosophical idea is that we are eternal, timeless, perfect, but
> > needing
> > to go through an evolutionary journey through matter in order to awaken
> > ourselves to self-conscious perfection. Some may take the Buddhist slant
> > on
> > this and say there's no eternal aspect to us, that we're an
> > ever-changing
> > stream of consciousness. That sounds like a contradiction, but it's
> > really
> > but a seeming paradox. Both viewpoints -- the eternal Self known as the
> > Monad and the ever-changing stream of consciousness typified by the Void
> > or
> > Emptiness -- are complimentary, co-exist, and cannot be separated.
> > Every being that exists is the expression of a consciousness at a
> > certain
> > stage of development, the outward expression of some Monad. That being
> > is
> > not created when its body is born. Rather, the birth of the body could
> > only
> > happen if there was the organizing effect of a being seeking birth.
> > Otherwise, the body would not be born; it would have no life.
> > Creating a new human body the ordinary way, through sex and natural
> > childbirth, the parents provide an opportunity for some being to exist.
> > That
> > being gives the life to the body, and when that being departs, the body
> > dies.
> > Creating a clone is a different way to produce a body. The rule still
> > holds.
> > It is a living body with a human consciousness behind it if there is
> > some
> > human Monad that attaches to it and gives it life. Otherwise, the clone
> > is
> > not viable.
> > A human form is created with a clone, but for it to live, a human Monad
> > would have to animate it. Life is not created, merely another type of
> > opportunity for someone to be born into the world.
> > The answer to the original question, I'd say, is that a clone has a soul
> > (meaning it has a human Monad behind it), if the clone takes on life as
> > a
> > human being.
> > If the clone's body has genetic problems and is seriously defective, no
> > human may incarnate into it, just as defective embryos may end up
> > stillborn,
> > with no one willing to live in them. If the body has good genes and
> > would
> > provide an attractive host, odds are, someone would be drawn to birth in
> > it.
> > Eldon
> > Dear Eldon, thank you so much for your considerable explanation on this
> > topic. At last I have grasped the theosophic concept completely.
> > Marie
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