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Re: Theos-World Re: criticism within TS-Adyar_Krishtar

Jan 18, 2005 12:12 PM
by M. Sufilight


Allright here is my knowledge and my views:

Yes the aspects of buddhi-force on its path downwards compared with upwards as we
ordinarily understands it. Even a Master is from time to time making a "mistake" - although
the more ordinary human do most often not realise or grasp what is going on.
Certainly CWL made mistakes even clairvoyant ones. This we know to be facts.

Which Skhandas or vehicles are a Dugpa using if not among them the buddhi on its downwards path?
CWL was not a real dugpa (because he also did good deeds) - but a struggling disciple who was burdened with too much work and strain in his body. And tested he was. The result was, that he made mistakes - but only so that he later would avoid them.


from
M. Sufilight with a smile...and some happy rugrats on Mars...


----- Original Message ----- From: "krishtar" <krishtar_a@brturbo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: criticism within TS-Adyar_Krishtar



Friend
But can Buddhi , the vehicle of pure universal spirit, have lower aspects?... for it is the vehicle of Atma!
Krishtar

----- Original Message ----- From: M. Sufilight
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Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: criticism within TS-Adyar_Krishtar



I will answer - Yes - to your second question. That is Both options - and I
would say both his buddhi and kama-manas when being in their negative
aspects.


M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- From: "krishtar" <krishtar_a@brturbo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: criticism within TS-Adyar_Krishtar



Friend Morten

What did you mean with the expression " Shadow " on ...."which beginners
read and when they do - they because of that
connects their minds with the authors mind (including his shadow), ?
Do you mean that CWL´s records printed the akasha or his kamarûpa?
Yes because his mind ( the lower manas) may still be linked with it in the
kamaloka, unless the masters have already destroyed it.

Krishtar

----- Original Message ----- From: M. Sufilight
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: criticism within TS-Adyar




Hallo Bart and all,

My views:

On Steiner I would definitely say no, although he had some influence.
Bailey was not really an influential member when she got thrown out was
she?

Bart wrote:
There is nobody in the Theosophical Society today who has a position
that even remotely compares to the position that Leadbeater had.

My answer:
Perhaps. But, How do you know? -
One sign against this view is, that They havn't aborted promoting his
books
in TS. Books, which beginners read and when they do - they because of that
connects their minds with the authors mind (including his shadow), and
sometimes the authors mind at the time he wrote the book they read.
It also depends on, what kind of position you are talking about.


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Lidofsky" <bartl@sprynet.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: criticism within TS-Adyar


M. Sufilight wrote:
I think CWL has been the most influential theosophist, who ever have
got
"thrown out" of the TS in all of the TS history - and this is worth
considering.
How about Steiner and Bailey?

Has anyone ever personally contacted "high-ranking" TS Adyar or any
other
Theosophical branch or offshoot about their official position as of
TODAY
on
CWL's sex-activities as mentioned in the following link and elsewhere
???:
http://blavatskyarchives.com/ton2.pdf
There is nobody in the Theosophical Society today who has a position
that even remotely compares to the position that Leadbeater had.

Bart





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