Theos-Talk Archives (August 2004 Message tt00734)

Morton,

What has sexual relations to do with "union of ones inner SELVES"? 

One refers only to the attractions of the lower animal nature -- while the 
other relates to the Spiritual nature alone (that is the basis of "brotherhood," 
"compassion," and "altruism") -- which makes no distinctions of any sort, 
including sex. 

It's also obvious, from all of HPB's teachings -- based on the ancient 
Hermetic science underlying it as well as all of Buddha's teachings -- that union of 
our inner SELVES is a function of our higher consciousness, and has nothing 
to do with "feelings" that center in our lower mind and emotional natures. 

Therefore, sexual relations, by themselves, can never lead to the higher 
wisdom nor to union with the universal soul. The Kama Sutra, along with all the 
lower yoga's such as Hatha or Kundalini, has nothing to do with spirituality, 
or what Blavatsky was talking about or teaching. The best they can do is 
tickle one's psyche and massage one's body and one's lower or personal ego.

So, I'm content to live in my cave -- after having enjoyed the sexual 
relations that went along with sowing my wild oats, raising all my children, and 
fulfilling my familial chores many long years ago. But those sexual relations 
were no different, as far as my spiritual consciousness was concerned, than was 
my wrestling with both boys and girls before my puberty.:-)

(Not to say that I can't still enjoy a romp in the hay when it comes my way, 
that keeps me young in mind and body to this day.:-) 

Leonardo

In a message dated 08/29/04 8:55:16 AM, global-theosophy@adslhome.dk writes:

>Hallo Dallas and all,
>
>My views are:
(Snip)
>In the article Blavatsky wrote:
>
>"It is only by the close brotherly union of men's inner SELVES, of
>soul-solidarity, of the growth and development of that feeling which makes
>one suffer when one thinks of the suffering of others, that the reign of
>Justice and equality for all can ever be inaugurated. This is the first of
>the three fundamental objects for which the Theosophical Society was
>established, and called the "Universal Brotherhood of Man," without
>distinction of race, colour or creed."
>
>
>Comments:
>Now this leads me to suggest, that if one have as ones objective to create
>growth of this "feeling"
>which Blavatsky talks about, - then a sexual relationship could be important
>in developing it.
>And relationships in general among various people aught to be of a kind,
>which implies, that
>one meets with those people who are capeable of giving the most fruit in
>nurturing this "feeling"
>either to one self or to others. Living in a cave seems not to be the right
>solution.
>
>from
>M. Sufilight with peace and love...
>
>