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Re: recorders on Karma?

May 06, 2004 03:33 PM
by ali_haq_hassan


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "krishtar" <krishtar_a@b...> wrote:


 


> In the T. glossary it is " Lipikas (Sk.). The celestial recorders, 
the "Scribes", those who record every word and deed, said or done by 
man while on this earth. As Occultism teaches, they are the agents of 
KARMA-the retributive Law."


> What is this recorder?Canīt it be called lords or divinities?


> On the same glossary " And as it is that Ego which chooses the 
personality it will inform,


> after each Devachan, and which receives through these personalities


> the effects of the Karmic causes produced, it is therefore the Ego,


> that self which is the "moral kernel " referred to and embodied


> karma, "which alone survives death." 


> THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY 173-4" looks very similar to the points of 
view of Allan Kardecīs books where he says that incarnating Spirit 
(Ego) chooses the body.


> I personally donīt agree totally both views because it is not the 
case of choosing a certain body but the ego and the other powers in 
question can "produce" a vehicle to the needs of the active Karma. 


> I may be kinda ignorant student bī presently I think that the act of 
choosing is only for mahatmas or very better evolved beings, not us.


> 


> Krishtar


> 


 


Hi, Krishtar-


 


I'm not exactly sure what your question is, but I'll throw some info 
for your consideration. I was taught that the level of energy called 
the Akashic Records, is where a sort of astral Record of each life is 
kept. This is two "planes" detached from physical, its color is green, 
and its 'swingaround' or lower octave is the solar-plexus chakra.


It is not especially a high level of energy- it is "below" the buddhi 
or Christ energy/consciousness level. Keep in mind that each of us as 
monads has a complete "kingdom" of consciousness that exists from this 
physical to the monadic, and beyond. 


The Heaven/Hell devachans are also at that same plane- they are 
mental and emotional energies which each of us create and interact 
through. I don't know if this corresponds exactly with the devachans 
that HPB discusses. This level is still within thinking, creative 
mind, so to speak, so it is also within Time, in a sense. But, of 
course, Time is experienced much differently as we leave vehicles 
behind. When I was a boy I nearly drowned accidentally, and I 
experienced very briefly that flash of one's entire life passing, from 
a different mental pov, only that pov is always watching, or so it 
seemed. Obviously, I had no notion of this phenomena at age 11.


Our past incarnations are "stored" yet accessible, so to speak, in 
that Akashic level, as are everyone else's....we are the creators and 
recorders of our own personal karmic trains. One time I "saw" my more 
recent incarnations as a string of pearls- each pearl was like a 
cocoon of a life that had been lived. Each one, as it was created, was 
dependent on karma, achievements, desires from the past. We can store 
karma sometimes for thousands of years and dozens of lives until there 
is the opportunity in a given life to experience it "live".


Our monadic intelligence "arranges" karma and lifetimes for us to 
grow and evolve into new expressions...eventually arriving at the 
human acme of a Mahatma, but there is no end to evolution.


Keep in mind that we are cells of a single Human entity, in contact 
spiritually with each of the other cells, whether we we have 
interracted with them or not- so finding them again to enact karma is 
a relative easy thing from that level.


Since we are essentially complete microcosmic clones of the 
macroscosmic One, we have all the facilities built-in for recording 
and evolving our own personal universes...although there are countless 
"positions and responsibilities" in the 3 universes to warrant 
entities to function as "recorders" or perhaps the Greek "Fates, 
Furies, etc."




As far as Dallas' assertion that opinions are relatively worthless, I 
agree, in the greater sense, and I think you do also. It is fine to 
have an opinion and a world-view through which we build our kingdom, 
but it is somewhat like a pre-raft of the raft that the Buddha talked 
about. Opinion won't add anything to your monadic pattern. 




regards-




Ali





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