Theos-Talk Archives (May 2004 Message tt00066)

Thursday, May 06, 2004 


Dear K

"My point of view" ? You ask about it?  

I try to coincide with the ORIGINAL TEACHINGS -- which, so few people
seem to be familiar with. (If they were, they would answer their own
questions.) 

No one can talk about THEOSOPHY unless they are familiar with the
"fundamentals" and the "sources."

-How come! So there is no theosophy to talk and think about if not based inHPBīs teachings?
and what about those mystic men that gained their iluminantion without everpout their eyes in any theosophical book?
Example?
Ramanha Maharshi! He letf school very soon and his only access to a " higher awareness" was through self development, so great it was that many researchers and seekers came to Him jut to gather his light, in his holy presence.
He was more buddhist and advanced in evolution than any student who knows the entire SD by heart.
And he seldon talked.

In my view, "opinions" are useless. We are not seeking entertainment
and arguments, but rather to be strictly "Theosophical," we ought to
be seeking for TRUTH. The we conserve tie and do not waste it. 

-Itīs not the case of looking for fun or not in theosophy.If opinion is, as you state, useless, why to participate in a group where we can learn from each other?
-So what do we learn from each other?
-Excuse me but I donīt really agree with this. If there something to share in this list are opinions, views and quotes , comparisons, free interpretation, reflexion.
-Whatīs seeking for truth for you?
-Quoting what it is written?And no opinion involved?


Another point.  

Are "opinions" of any use to any one? If they are incorrect, then
those who might adopt them are misled and may mislead others.  

-But it doesnīt mean that they are useless.

If there are cases of such abuse, then the ripple of adverse Karma
goes on ad infinitum down the rolling waves of passing centuries - and
the originator of falsities bears a huge amount of guilt.   

Can you imagine how much adverse Karma is actually born by those who
pervert a "religions" or, "historical events"? 

-Yes, I tend to agree on this, but you are giving here an extreme situation, not applicable in a trade of points of view .
-Excuse me but the folloing states that you are making the job of an archivist:

My objective then, is to make those ORIGINAL SOURCES available, and
thus everyone can make up their own minds from the evidence. 


Of course, if you don't like the idea of KARMA, or the concept of
continued responsibility under the law of REINCARNATION, and their
infinite progress -- as the Eternal Pilgrim in every human as in
every atom of matter, and, of the Egoic Monad, then Theosophy has
little to offer. 

-Dallas, I hope it is only a brief and distorted view of mine but you look here too much full of yourself.
I hope it is an illusion.

So it boils down finally to a question of "liking" or "disliking."
And that is to me wishy-washy -- uncertain, vague and a waste of
everyone's time. 

-No matter how we argue about the validity or not validity of opinions, youare offering yours, anyway.
My like or dislike about karma is not in discussion, because itīd soon become a judgement.
I once met a friend that whenever i asked him a question about something more philosophical he rushed to his old and worn-out Holy Bible to find the exact explanation and the exact approximation to what he was trying to express due to my question.
I found it very curious because I wondered where was the wisdom by being aware of the exact localization of every versicle and chapter of his Bible?
He also used to say that the Bible had aways got an answer.He then ended the chat telling me :
"There is no need to read any other book than the Bible, books are inventions of those who want to earn money selling them.
All you need is Bible, all the answers are here." 


Dallas, 
Letīs not take it to offenses, i do really appreciate your posts...they always have something good to offer.
But I didnīt understand your stating that opinions are not valid.
I think they do, but they must be always questioned and discussed, as much as all we read.

Have a nice day

Krishtar




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