Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00570)

Hi. What do you do, just go to the index and look something up and then just
post it out here? The passage from HPB you have quoted is not relevant to
this discussion as it does NOT serve to clarify the issue in question. Plus
the wording in your message makes it sound it like Jerry said that HPB was
against Buddhism. I am starting to notice you use words this way a lot. It
is sad. If Jerry is really your friend, why would you do this, as it makes
him sound bad and yourself sound good? I have some problems with Jerry, but
he is trying to communicate with you sincerely and in good faith, plus he is
somewhat knowledgeable on a subject you understand zilch about. Wry

----- Original Message -----
From: <dalval14@earthlink.net>
To: "Theosophy Study List" <theos-l@list.vnet.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:50 AM
Subject: Theos-World RE: Re to Dallas - Buddhism


> Jan 23 2003
>
> Dear Friend:
>
> Perhaps "BODH" or "BOD" is the root you want ?
>
> The pronunciations in European languages give no hint of the careful
> set of vibrations (used and implied) in the use of this word in
> Sanskrit among the Pundits and the various philosophical sectarians.
> Hindu wisdom is still conveyed orally -- outside the modern academies,
> and when written it looses its careful exactitude -- this has been
> transmitted for ages mouth to ear among the families and groups of
> those dedicated to preserve it.
>
> It becomes crystallized around some one chosen form or idea. It
> looses its comprehensive quality. But this is not widely known.
>
> Why should H P B be against Buddhism? Unless she was making it plain
> that the structure of belief and practice built by some of his
> follower was different from what he had originally said and meant.
>
> Here is what the Mahatma, writing to Sinnett said::
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> "When our great Buddha -- the patron of all the adepts, the reformer
> and the codifier of the occult system, reached first Nirvana on earth,
> he became a Planetary Spirit; i.e. -- his spirit could at one and the
> same time rove the interstellar spaces in full consciousness, and
> continue at will on Earth in his original and individual body. For the
> divine Self had so completely disfranchised itself from matter that it
> could create at will an inner substitute for itself, and leaving it in
> the human form for days, weeks, sometimes years, affect in no wise by
> the change either the vital principle or the physical mind of its
> body. By the way, that is the highest form of adeptship man can hope
> for on our planet. But it is as rare as the Buddhas themselves, the
> last Khobilgan who reached it being Sang-Ko-Pa of Kokonor (XIV
> Century), the reformer of esoteric as well as of vulgar Lamaism. Many
> are those who "break through the egg-shell," few who, once out are
> able to exercise their Nirira namastaka fully, when completely out of
> the body. Conscious life in Spirit is as difficult for some natures as
> swimming, is for some bodies. Though the human frame is lighter in its
> bulk than water, and that every person is born with the faculty, so
> few develop in themselves the art of treading water that death by
> drowning is the most frequent of accidents. The planetary Spirit of
> that kind (the Buddha like) can pass at will into other bodies -- of
> more or less etherialised matter, inhabiting other regions of the
> Universe. There are many other grades and orders, but there is no
> separate and eternally constituted order of Planetary Spirits."
> MAHATMA LETTERS 43 (Barker Edn.)
>
> --------------------
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dal
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:27 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re to Dallas - Buddhism
>
> <<<From the outset when she started writing for the public, in ISIS
> UNVEILED, one finds that H P B assigned to the word "Buddhism" the
> meaning of BODHISM or WISDOM - and she carefully differentiated
> between that and the religious philosophy and observances that
> followed the life and teachings of the great Budha: Gautama, Siddartha
> Sakyamuni.>>>
>
> Dallas, first of all, there is no such Sanskrit word as "bodism" in my
> dictionary, but even if Blavatsky made it up, it relates to what is
> known as esoteric Buddhism. It is not something different from
> Buddhism, but rather Buddhist teachings without the religious
> trimmings.
>
> If Blavatsky was against the religion of Buddhism, then one is left to
> wonder why she took pansil and became a Buddhist.
>
>
> <<<MAHA-YANA = GREAT PATH -- originated AFTER Buddha's death.>>>
>
> It originated as a separate sect or division within the Buddhist
> religion through Nagarjuna, who was predicted by Buddha himself. The
> Tantric tradition of Tibetan Buddhism teaches that Sakyamuni was a
> special Buddha who taught Tantricism. Only a few Buddhas do this, most
> are reserved to sutra teachings which are considered to be lesser
> teachings.
>
> According to Rich Taylor, there is a direct relationship between
> Blavatsky's Stanzas and Tibetan Tantricism.
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> DTB I DOUBT THAT. The tantras are text used in special cases and as I
> said above they tend to materialize rather than liberate meaning.
>
> H P B states these STANZAS were selected and used by her Teachers as a
> basis on which to make the teachings of The SECRET DOCTRINE
> reasonable.
>
> DTB
>
>
> Jerry S.
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