Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00303)

Hi. I am going to answer this, point by point, as you have left an
interesting message.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Meaning


> Hi Wry and all of you,
>
> Allright Wry. You seem to mean well.
>
> Please read all the following carefully:
> But, as I see it, and let me put it plainly - just to make point, some
here
> at Theos-talk might get:
>
> Wry, please try re-reading the email, which you posted - ( Sunday,
December
> 08, 2002 5:41 AM) and which I first answered on.
>
> The Bible in the present translations and editions are not a magnificent
> book to read for the present upgrowning generations.
> There are several problems with this book. Blavatsky has dealt with some
of
> them in her articles and books:
> 1. It is an old book.
> 2. It was a book created to a audience of the past, and NOT and audience
of
> the present.

Wry: I completely agree. This book is no longer time appropriate as a
religious text for large masses of people.

> 3. It was written using only about 2 of the 7 keys used when writing
> esoteric scriptures (try for instance H. P. Blavatskys book "The Secret
> Doctrine" on the "7 keys".)

Wry: What you say here is the one part of your message that to me is highly
problematic and disturbed me when I read your original message. Who is to
decide that Madame B was the authority on this subject?

> 4. The present translations not only into english, but other languages -
are
> gravely misleading in content, - i.e. seen from a spiritual point of view.
> Misleading in the sense, that it thrives on the idea of an eternal Hell.
> Something I for sure and Theosophy (the wisdom teaching of all ages past)
> for sure won't buy or support - year 2002. There are certainly NOTHING
> magnificent about that !

Wry: You are taking literally what was meant to be allegorical, which is, I
will acknowledge, one of the problems of this book, as many people do that.
But I contend that it is more a problem and tendency of the nature of people
than of this book. This is an interesting subject, that of allegorical
teaching, and it is actually one of my particular specialities. Maybe
someday I will go into this subject in depth on this list, if the atmosphere
ever gels into such that such a serious and important study can take place.


> 5. The Bible is not helping the Planet creating a better future. The Bible
> is a book of the past, and NOT the present. People need something new, a
new
> teaching, and not an old one, which has been so gravely misused.

Wry. I so agree. Only mentioned the Bible because it is a spiritual book
which I assumed most westerners have read. None the less, in my opinion,
though no longer time appropriate, the Bible is a great book. The Gospel of
John, for example, contains some of the greatest spiritual writing of
humanity? Have you ever read this? Also, the Book of Revelations is most
amazing, and are some of the books of the Old Testament.


> 6. The Bible as such is a SMALL book - and only 'a book' and not worth
> dealing with, unless one has searched for Wisdom first.

Wry: Agreed (not that us agreeeinng makes this be true).


> 7. To lead people in to an acceptance of a personal God is just no good. A
> peacefull God is better than a aggressive western one.

Wry. Agreed.


> 8. The tendency which english speaking readers at Theos-talk is, that they
> seem to support western views more than eastern ones. And indirectly
> therefore also the Bible as it is supported today by The Christians, a
> hidden agenda for a Crusade against other religions, - and especially
those
> not following the western lifestyles and thoughts on democracy and
> devotional political campaigns, and personalizations. And those not
> following the doctrine of the religious Church as having its place behind
> the politicians - bowing in deep respect for their foolishness.

Wry: Agreed.
>
> The following articles by Blavatsky could be worth while reading before
one
> starts (indirectly)supporting
> the High Mass of popes:

Wry. I assumed that people on here know I am not doing that. I am going to
erase the second half of your message so this will not be so long, and maybe
I will try to respond to that part at another time. The Bible is one of the
greatest and most magnificent books of the Western World, in my opinion, and
I have gained immeasurable understanding from studying portions of this
book. (One thing you did not mention, by the way, is that some of the
translations, especially in my favorite, the King James, are innaccurate and
misleading). I do not believe the Bible is the word of God as that is most
ridiculous, nor do I believe that there is a primal cause for creation.
Sincerely, Wry

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