Theos-Talk Archives (February 2001 Message tt00141)

Dear Jerry:

May I insert a few comments below?

Thanks,

Dal

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry S [mailto:gschueler@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:25 AM
To: Theosophy Study List
Subject: Response to Dallas


<<Periodically, the SECRET DOCTRINE states, there is sweeping
over
a portion of this absoluteness MANIFESTATION. This is rules by
the UNIVERSAL KARMA.>>

One can only wonder what a "portion" of the absolute is?
Here again we are dealing using words to describe the
indescribable, and losing all logic in the process.

DTB	I AGREE IT IS NOT DESCRIBABLE IN OUR TERMS.


<<KARMA is called "an emanation of beings.">>

Agreed. Buddhists teach that the whole universe was
created by our own karma.

DTB	so our age (spiritually, Monadically and Egoically) will (we
presume ?) coincide with the universe



>>If for purposes of analysis, one desires to consider the
pattern
of evolution / involution, of : breathing out and breathing in,
then of necessity from the ABSOLUTENESS there emerges in IT the
very first
IDEA of manifestation and the UNMANIFESTED LOGOS begins to awake
(S.D. I
27-29)>>

I would say, rather, that from NONDUALITY emmantes all dualities
such as evolution/involution and spirit/matter as well as
relative/absolute, existence/non-existence, manifest/unmanifest,
love/hate, male/female, inner/outer, objective/subjective,
and so on.

DTB	I would not disagree with those terms.


It is clear that one has to take for granted:
1. the essential limitless UNIVERSE (or SPACE)
2, That is filled with LIFE and Life-units (INTELLIGENT AND
CONSCIOUS MONADS)
3, that all is ruled by just, fair and immutable LAWS all the
time., and
4. Every part of the Universe embodies the potentialities of THE
ONE, and is in effect an IMMORTAL PILGRIM to the shore of
Perfection which looms in the distance of time and space far
away.
Best wishes,
Dallas<<

Here you are listing the basic assumptions underlying
Blavatsky's universe model. However, I would say that
space (or SPACE, if you prefer) is indeed limited, but
that there is probably no limit to the number of
universes in manifestation, each with its own space-time
continuum. I also have a real problem with the fairness
business, in that I don't think Cosmos gives a darn about
being fair, and I suspect that fairness is all in the mind
of the beholder.
DTB	We use our comparative human terms. The Universe H.P.B.
says one place is devoted to the evolution of the spiritual Man
out of the personal, the physical and the selfish. All rules,
Laws, etc, that are included in the universe and which we might
term inter-active or cooperative, lead tom the support of life
everywhere. (as I see it ) Being an emanation of the ABSOLUTE
they are universal, impartial, fair, just and totally sensitive
to the motive impulse WE impart when we make choices
That's as I would express it Jerry, and I think you and I are not
very far apart, except in the use of some words.
Best wishes, as always,
Dal

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Jerry S.


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