Theos-Talk Archives (November 2000 Message tt00090)

I agree -- beautifully written. I had a teacher once who said the "worst
evil that can befall a man is to be trapped inside his lower mind". That
to me is the same as the loss of ability to think abstractly -- that loss
of one's inate and earned ability to intuit via the Higher Mind. Love from
Kat in Italy

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Dear Giovanna,

Wonderfully written.

So you're a silent lurker. I could lurk more than I do.

It is like the fall from grace to loose the ability to think abstractly and
become so involved in the practical world that one won't even stop to
consider whether or not we are immorta; having now decided that we clearly
and definitely are not. Such religious conviction leaves little room for
the wonder and the scientifically substantiated magic of the world. Such
is, of necessity, the cycle: Gotta surive first, then form families, then
have time to think, then to contemplate, then to be WHO we are all
together.
It is so important that we learn from cultures and subcultures who are very
very conscious yet have choosen the community of Individuals above all
inappropriate personal gain(at the expense of others). The divine walk
amongst us could we but see, within and without. Namaskar.

I certainly hope that you will write more. I'll even be willing to write
less!

Gene


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From: "giovanna" <giovanna@telus.net>
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Abstract thinking


>
> >
> ><<I wish to understand the abstract mind and it's function and if and
why
some
> >human's can think abstractly but do not.
> >
> >Gene>>
>
> Hello Gene and everyone:
>
> I am a lurker here, and will probably go back to lurking after this post.
> However, Gene has whetted my senses and I feel I need to throw in my
cents
> worths in the search for meaning, as to why some do, and some do not use
> abstract thought.
>
> When there is the care of an infant child at hand, the care-taker of the
> child can do one of two things. S/he can set a schedule for the care of
the
> child and set the time the child will eat, drink, bath, go to sleep, go
to
> school, what to learn etc. In the world we have been stationed for, this
is
> called time-management. The other option, which most Native children had
> been raised in {Indiginous Peoples} children are free to eat, to sleep,
and
> to learn at their own pace. The children in these cultures learn not what
> they are given to them to learn, but what they are most suited to
become...
> they become whom they truly are, and every child is fully developed
> internally and encouraged to find their own place in society. The written
> language is not primary, and the use of signs and symbols, and verbal
> learning outweight the written word.
>
> With the advent of the work schedule and working for profit, we have lost
> the natural flow of the cycle of life. With this loss, I believe that
there
> was/is a loss of thinking on an abstract level, because we are
conditioned
> to partition time and boundaries have embedded themselves within our
psyche.
>
> The 60s was a major breakthrough because we remembered a lot of what we
had
> forgotten through the use of psychotropic drug use. Although, the
prolonged
> use of psychotropic are harmful and I am not condoning their use, they
did
> remind many of us how to access this part of ourselves once more and to
> break the hold of linear time which is enforced by the life-styles which
we
> are all enmeshed in order to meet with the requirements of daily living.
>
> In order for me to study metaphysics I think abstractly in order to
study
> magick and to "ride the winds of time". I feel that thinking abstractly
is
> a basis prerequisite for my study in magick.
>
> Giovanna
>
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