Theos-Talk Archives (October 2000 Message tt00161)

Hi Todd:

I have many questions.  If B.Creme said what you told us, then I would like to know who are the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit for him.

There is something I don´t understand.  Why the Christ had to die?  To merely represent a teaching about iniciations?  I mean, really, if we think that, we could call him mad! ... unless there had been another reason for that.

Another thing: if the Christ is a 7th degree human iniciate, then how do we have to understand those lot of phrases of the Bible where it is said that He and the Father are the same thing, that the Christ existed before everything, that there is no Angel, Arcangel, or any other celestial being higher than Christ ... and so on?.

Please, group, don´t forget to mention what HPB said about these things, because it could be interesting too.

Todd Lorentz escribió:

 
For interest's sake:
     Benjamin Creme's Master has stated that Maitreya is a 7th degree
initiate and that the Buddha is an 8th degree initiate.  Maitreya and the
Buddha both appear at the Wesak festival where the energy from the Buddha
(Will of God) is transferred to Maitreya and blended by Maitryea with the
energy of Love which He embodies.  The Buddha acts as an intermediary
between the Hierarchy (with Maitreya at its Head in the Office of the
Christ) and Shamballa.
   Maitreya is the "World Teacher" for this age and sits at the head of the
Hierarchy as the "Eldest" of the *Human* family.  The Buddhist's have His
name right and expect the fifth Buddha, Maitreya, to return from the
Tushita Heaven.  While the Buddha is "more advanced", so to speak, than
Maitreya, He evolved originally along the moon chain, whereas, Maitreya is
an evolutionary product of the earth chain.
   Further, Jesus was a senior initiate (4th degree initiate) who was
overshadowed by Maitreya for the last three years of his life - from the
Baptism to the Crucifixion.  As Alice Bailey recounts in "From Bethlehem to
Calvary", the life of Jesus demonstrated (among other things) the five
major initiations for Mankind.  The fourth was demonstrated by Jesus in the
"Great Renunciation" on the cross.  It was Maitreya who further
demonstrated the fifth - The Ascension - using the body of Jesus, and later
spoke with the disciples saying to "look for the water bearer" (the age of
Aquarius) and that He would return at the end of the Age (foretelling the
return of Maitreya at this time).

Todd

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