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Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their relationship toscience.

Apr 23, 2000 10:07 AM
by Eugene Carpenter


Leon, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I see heaven in your
thinking.  Sure.  It does blow me away, but I'll do the work to understand
it as best I can.  What is beautiful is the connection between theosophical
thought and conventional science if one can, ha, ha, ha, call Superstring
Theory, "conventional."  I love it.  Please bear with my over-enthusiastic
quality, I have a deficiency of access to theosophical science.  Thankyou.

Please comment on David Pearce's Zero Ontology web page:

I'll save your webpage addresses.


I forward this to the Esoteric Science group list.
-----Original Message-----
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Date: Friday, April 21, 2000 1:49 AM
Subject: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
relationship toscience.

>In a message dated 04/19/00 1:37:32 AM, writes:
>>In a message dated 4/17/00 8:42:58 PM, writes:
>>> Without reference to the above mentioned historical review,
>>>but with reference to modern and post modern science,
>>>I hopefully await some intelligent discussions in these
>>>theosophical forums related to the fundamental scientific
>>>principles that underlies all evolution, as well as the scientific
>>>relationships between spirit, mind and matter -- as presented
>>>in the SD and other writings of HPB and her (pseudonymous or
>>>not) Masters KH and M -- and supplemented by other
>>>corroborative writings of William Q. Judge, under their direct
>>Dear Leon,
>>Why dont you start the conversation.  What is the most
>>basic fundamental principle that underlies all evolution?
>Okay.  Here is how I see it.
>The "most basic fundamental principle" is that there are actually three
>fundamental principles that go hand in hand with each other, and act as
>These are, (1) the principle of Absolute Origin (2) the principle of Law,
>(3) the principle and purpose of Evolution
>They are explained, from a "scientific" point of view (with reference to
>Proem of the Secret Doctrine), as:
>(1); The origin of the Cosmos starting from a "sleeping" zero (laya) point
>infinite energy and infinite duration, in the form of absolute abstract
>motion -- which has no physical dimensions or other conceivable attributes,
>and potentially exists, in the "emptiness" of absolute abstract space as
>fundamental "cyclic spin" around three primary axes on seven invisible and
>intangible layers or "Robes" -- prior to its periodic "awakening" and
>manifestation. This primal "spinergy" contains, in its holographic
>interference patterns of endless and beginningless circular motion with
>varying degrees of momentum, which, when manifest in lawful degrees or
>"phases" of vibrational energies descending from infinite spirit to finite
>matter, contains all the memories and acquired knowledge of the universe's
>prior existences -- which are accessible to the individual "awareness"
>inherent in the static zero-point itself -- and which, after emanation and
>manifestation, is reflected everywhere.  Upon manifestation into the
>this nonlinear circular motion transforms, after three major phases (logos)
>emanating from each of its 3 spin axis, into a finite harmonic series of 7
>7 coenergetic (capable of transforming energy from one field to another)
>vibrational fields, appearing as nonlinear "coadunate but not
>bubbles within bubbles within bubbles, enclosed by continuous loops within
>loops within loops of linear force (the basis of postmodern scientific
>Superstring and M-brane theories), centered around their zero-points of
>potential awareness or consciousness -- in accordance with the second
>fundamental principle of;
>(2) The immutable laws of cycles and periodicity -- based on initial
>motion -- which is the fundamental governing cause of both karma
>(action-inertia-reaction) and reincarnation (birth-death-rebirth) ...
>to the final fundamental principle of;
>(3) Evolution and involution ... Whereby spirit and its root of pure
>consciousness on 7, 10 and 12 levels or "planes" or "coenergetic phases" of
>action potential originating at the zero-point, involutionally transforms
>into matter (with its myriad degrees of forms in 4 physical stages of
>evolution from Mineral to Vegetable to Animal to Man) ... While matter,
>informed by spirit and its associated universal consciousness, and governed
>by fundamental cyclic Law, evolutionally transforms back to spirit and pure
>consciousness at the end of each wakeful phase of manifest existence  This
>process is endless and beginningless and is repeated through varying
>of finite time in each subsequent descending and ascending sub cycle of
>universal evolution –- with all zero-points of consciousness gaining
>appropriate degrees of experience along the way -- subject to their
>individual karma.  ("As above, so below" -- according to the ancient occult
>catechism attributed to Hermes.)  The third principle also states, from a
>theosophical standpoint, that the purpose of this evolutionary process is
>the "experience of the soul." All this is quite clearly elaborated on from
>theosophical standpoint in the Proem of the Secret Doctrine, as well as in
>the Ocean of Theosophy.
>For a simplified symbolic diagrammatic look at how these ascending and
>descending fields of force evolve prior to their breaking of symmetry  (due
>to the particularized holographic memories, images and inherent knowledge
>associated with each field's and subfield's coincident zero-points and
>resonant interferences with the memories and their volitional actions, or
>karma, in adjoining fields) -- along with their theosophical and scientific
>correlations, see my web sites at:
>For a further discussion of how these principles underlie our human
>consciousness and perception, see my web site at:
>I hope this is a satisfactory start, and would be pleased to answer any
>questions, and consider any suggestions or comments related to correlations
>between theosophical principles and all disciplines of current science --
>which, as HPB predicted is now approaching the fundamental truths of
>theosophy, through the interdisciplinary field of "consciousness studies,"
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