Theos-Talk Archives (May 1999ar Message tt00089)

In a message dated 5/8/99 6:30:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ramadoss@eden.com 
writes:

<< The fact of the matter is that historical matters relating to TS cannot be
 ignored. >>

The only problem with this Doss, is all the baggage that comes with it. It 
seems that we have not developed to the point where we can study history to 
just learn from it and still remain neutral enough to be able to respond to 
the present without the undue influences of old biases and old agenda's.

<<This is especially true of newer recruits to theosophy and TS.>>

Maybe we should take our cue from a lesson that the incarnation experience 
teaches us. There must be a reason that we do not incarnate with our 
historical memories intact, don't you think? Could cosmic order be telling us 
that in order to get an absolutely pure response to the karmic effects that 
come with each moment, that it is better if we DO NOT have access to older 
memories and agendas? Perhaps we are better served creatively, by new 
recruits, if they were not burdened with the tough and murky path from which 
we have come. 

<<K and the history of TS are intertwined.>>

But maybe it is time to unwind it, When I was at Krotona, one could not help 
but get an undercurrent of betrayal as perceived by the Adyar intelligentsia, 
regarding the Krishnamurti connection to theosophy. And when I would attend 
K's lectures in the grove, one could not help getting a sense of wrongdoing 
to K, when the people from his compound knew you were asking questions as a 
visitor from Krotona/Adyar

Doss, my point is, though some historical knowledge is necessary and even 
unavoidable. Until we have developed our intuitive capacities to see truth 
more directly, or evolved to the point where we can remain detached from 
identifying with one side over the other, (especially while we cannot see 
truth directly) then, if we must teach history, let us do so lightly. With 
much emphasis on the fact that NONE of the eye witnesses or principals of a 
particular historical narrative are alive and all the rest is for the most 
part an intellectual exercise. Much like circumstantial evidence in our court 
rooms, it can be made to wear a lot of faces.

Louis

In many ways our historical bias can be very subtle and reach people 
(especially newcomer) in various ways and on many levels. Judging from all 
the back and forth over details on this list, I am not sure that any but the 
seasoned veterans of theosophical disputes, win out. Let everyone enter 
theosophy where they find it and follow it with whatever equipment they bring 
with them. For some, that will mean some history will be important, for 
other's the LACK of history will bring them face to face with currently 
emerging LIVING theosophy. although it is the ANCIENT WISDOM they will be 
facing they will be facing it with the unburdened, uninfluenced enthusiasm of 
original SELF. That can be a "good thing"

Louis

-- THEOSOPHY WORLD -- Theosophical Talk -- theos-talk@theosophy.com

Letters to the Editor, and discussion of theosophical ideas and
teachings. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message consisting of
"subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to theos-talk-request@theosophy.com.