Theos-Talk Archives (April 1998 Message tt00612)

Quick reincarnation looks logical. As for others, I recall seeing some of
the figures in CJ's First Principles. Are these figures put out by CWL
and/or they have been mentioned in other works such as SD? I recall Pavri
is more a compiler of info than a original writer.

mkr

At 09:03 PM 4/29/1998 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-04-29 11:38:47 EDT, you write:
>
><< Tibetan buddhists believe that when one
> dies, the next incarnation is followed rather quickly, in few days or
> something like that.
>
> How do this relate to H.P.B:s (and her Mahatmas) teachings about
> centuries spent in between-lives states, like devachan?
> >>
>
>Good question! Many past life regressions have the soul "staying out" about
>ten to twenty years, maybe a hundred at the most, before coming back. Are
>these past life memories accurate? Is Blavatsky's 1,000 to 1,500 year interim
>way off the mark?
>
>Check out P. Pavri's THEOSOPHY EXPLAINED (1930), on pages 177 and 178. The
>following "criteria" is given for intervals between incarnations.
>
>1. Those on the Path - they reincarnate within a few months or years if they
>choose to continue their work on the physical plane for the Masters. If not,
>their interval; between lives is 1,500 to 2,000 years. No time spent on the
>Astral Plane.
>
>2. Those approaching the Path - the interval is between 700 to 1,200 (5 years
>on the Astral Plane, the rest in Devachan except for about 50 years in the
>Causal Body on the Higher Mental Plane.
>
>3. Gentleman with a keen sense of honour and above average in goodness,
>intellect and religious feeling, the best type of professional men, city-
>merchants and country-gentleman, and others who are well developed and
>altruistic - a 600 to 1000 year interval, 20- to 25 on the Astral Plane. Only
>a touch of consciousness in the Causal Body.
>
>4. Upper middle class, like most city merchants, gentlemen still, a little
>below average in goodness, intellect and religious feelings, who turn their
>intellect to more material ends, a life less elevated than the professional
>man - an interval between lives of 500 years, 25 years on the Astral Plane,
>the rest in Devachan. No conscious life in the Causal Body except for one
>flash of memory before incarnating.
>
>5. The great mass of the lower middle class, small shopkeepers, shop
>assistants, farmers conventional, dull and narrow, though well-intentioned -
>an average interval of 200 to 300 years with 40 years on the Astral Plane and
>the rest spent on the lower levels of Devachan.
>
>6. The working classes, skilled laborers working with both hands and heads,
>men of respectability and character - 100 to 200 years, 40 on the 4th
subplane
>of the Astral Plane, the rest in the lower subplanes of Devachan (Lower
>Mental).
>
>7. Unskilled labour, well meaning but careless, high types of savages - 60 to
>100 years between lives, 40 to 50 on the lower Astral Plane, the remainder on
>the lowest subplane of Devachan.
>
>8. Savages of a comparatively mild type, some hill tribes, wastrels,
>unemployable and drunkards, slum-dwellers - 40 to 50 years on the lowest
>subdivision of the Astral Plane.
>
>9. Lowest specimens of humanity, brutal savages, habitual criminals,
>hooligans, wife and child beaters - 5 years on the lowest subplane of the
>Astral Plane.
>
>The Empire lives in the after-life! Long live Queen Victoria!
>
>Lmhem111
>
>Added Note: include footmen, grooms, gamekeepers, maids (both upstairs and
>downstairs) in Classification 6