Theos-Talk Archives (October 2011 Message tt00137)

Dear Cass and friends

My views are:

The aim of seeking comparative studying is to seek a scientific stance upon the truth about the meaning of life.
This is aimed at those who are in need for it. The next thing is, that if we are promoting altruism in this regard, as theosophical seeker ordinarily do, a psychological change will have to occur. And this is very important. And this involves being aware of the science on Subtle Mind Control (for instance knowing the difference between sectarian and non-sectarian behavior, and conditioning versus non-conditioning, and how subtle sectarian influence might mind control the individual etc. etc.), and the science of Psychology as such - as well - both of them spiritually and non-spiritually. This is a scientific approach. Not a belief approach.

The rest are knowledge some have, but which others might not have. Some persons know more than others in the world of time. This is a fact, which virtually none opposes. For instance the knowledge about developing the Christos principle within us instead of silly prayers like the Great Invocation - which to many seekers in fact merely promotes a dualistic mindset.

But these are just my views.



M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cass Silva 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: theos-talk the Christian Saviour, like Krishna


    
  What's this.  HPB is referring to Teachers.  The only way we can be saved is through developing the christos principle within us.  These Saviour Teachers may come along to point the way, but they cannot do the work for us.  

  Cass

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  >From: M. Sufilight <global-theosophy@kZCeglIZ5DAf_CbykBhMl1NzBU2i1bGbczPPOANPfOjbaVMWCJddmc3KAajw3k2v4eo6fqMPYX-CaGqElKwOfrvY2RKfpQ.yahoo.invalid>
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  >Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2011 10:24 AM
  >Subject: Re: theos-talk the Christian Saviour, like Krishna
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  >The following might also be good to know about...
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  >The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors
  >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Sixteen_Crucified_Saviors
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  >M. Sufilight
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  >From: Augoeides-222@TDCuF1amku_fIacUyXoYvd1onzVHeM9O6WTrIvfmuHXy9NuU6aTjZDOXSKzIzbwQF04aIlU3anVplyJSfpC0ccOg.yahoo.invalid 
  >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  >Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:52 AM
  >Subject: Re: theos-talk the Christian Saviour, like Krishna
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  >Jeremy and all, 
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  >A certain book that Blavatsky also mentioned "The Worlds Sixteen Crucified Saviors or Christianity before Christ" by Kersey Graves 1879, Boston: Colby and Rich Publishers, No. 9 Montgomery Place, 384 pages. it is a survey of ancient history of religion of cultures dessertates upon the "Saviour" fi gures of pre-christion history. Madame Blavastky mentions as a "Q" source respective to her readings. 
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  >John 
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  >From: "Jeremy Condick" <jpcondick2011@oGBkjR1-2SLQNSBrs3ponpjhopnCHxg0KKIRyusBbh6cwonjHIJZOBCtCkxpFP2DBHUAsr_2QvYJ50VVCl4.yahoo.invalid> 
  >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:31:15 PM 
  >Subject: theos-talk the Christian Saviour, like Krishna 
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  >HPB first key work proclaimed the Christ the Christian saviour and Christos, AAB second key work expanded somewhat, the Christ which is a rank of office of the head of hierarchy, and not the so called Christian son of a personal god, Jehovah like, of the church fathers so worshiped and personalised by the Roman Catholics also. This is often greatly misunderstood. But it is part of our teachings. JPC. 
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  >"The personal God of orthodox Theism perceives, thinks, and is affected by emotion; he repents and feels "fierce anger." SD1 2. 
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  >"Christian theology has evolved its self-created human and personal God" SD1 613. 
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  >"The Church enforces belief in a personal god and a personal devil, while Occultism shows the fallacy of such a belief." SD2 475. 
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  >"This Entity, Whom we call the solar Logos, is in no sense the same as the personal God of the Christian, who is no more nor less than man himself, expanded into a being of awful power, and subject to the virtues and vices of man himself." TCF 239. 
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  >"On the other hand, regarded in the light of the LOGOS, the Christian Saviour, like Krishna, whether as man or logos, may be said to have saved those who believed in the secret teachings from "eternal death," to have conquered the Kingdom of Darkness, or Hell, as every Initiate does. This in the human, terrestrial form of the Initiates, and also because the logos is Christos, that principle of our inner nature which develops in us into the Spiritual Ego -- the Higher-Self -- being formed of the indissoluble union of Buddhi (the sixth) and the spiritual efflorescence of Manas" SD2 230. 
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  >"those whom the Christian Saviour addressed as ïthe generation of vipers". CW X 
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  >"Like Buddha and Jesus, Apollonius was the uncompromising enemy of all outward show of piety, all display of useless religious ceremonies and hypocrisy. If, like the Christian Saviour, the sage of Tyana had by preference sought the companionship of the poor and humble"... IU2 341. 
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