Theos-Talk Archives (July 2011 Message tt00011)

J. Mead, 
Hmmm, I hope your not thinking I support apocalyptic earth doom, lol. I don't subscribe to religious conspiracy theory's. My view of the 2012 event is as I have previously posted it represents "The Dawn of Lift of Mind of All Mankind"this was the origination of the UFO Fella's in 1976 as given in The Brian Scott Case. But it also is the same view of the Maya, not that "time" ends, not that the "world" ends, not of death and destruction. But that the Fourth Great cycle of 5125 years completes and a "New" Cycle begins which starts the 5th and last cycle of 5125 years for thier Great Year of 25,920 year. And like Blavatsky in my view the Maya say this New "beginning" of the 5th Age 
presents the opportunity for the elevation of mind ushering in the 'dawn" (in due time) of higher awareness, higher consciousness, higher responsibility, higher survival ethics, and the coming of higher Unity of the peoples of the Earth,. The Maya haven't said they predict the doom of mankind and the Earth due to the 2012 event in my personal view. 

I do agree religions pet the fear of all mankind too much, and for too many self serving reasons as do all who possess the conditioned mind are driven to do. A huge number of books and media find riches, wealth, and freedom from toil for those who scare by poisoning the minds of simple people. 

John 
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From: "John E. Mead" <jemead@lOaQwRsTt21xiMu3qtKnSbL5YCGEO4jUm8l5vIffCwfcnAbXMX1Qf1IQut40kP2MUq_vJBWHLBZDIUHANLJJ.yahoo.invalid> 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 7:53:58 PM 
Subject: Re: theos-talk Eschatological prayer (Please, bless us all with thine cosmic destruction) 






"Watching death and destruction from a distance has the disconnect" 
That is a good line. Our world has that aspect of disconnect developed 
into a highly evolved Science. It is one of the great information-age 
paradoxes that the connectedness and disconnectedness are simultaneously 
distinct yet indistinguishable. 

It is, as if, any collective of people can be destroyed, and people 
want/don't-care if they are destroyed, yet somehow any particular 
individual is never harmed in the collective/group. It is one weird 
meme. However, the really interesting thing is that the individual, 
themselves, can be in the collective/group eliminated, but they exclude, 
deny or ignore the effect upon themselves directed by their own 
membership. So, we gleefully await the eschatology we fear. Perhaps 
that explains how the "Rapture" is "sold" so easily (just referring to 
some various Christianities e.g.). A form of self-indirection. 

On 7/5/2011 6:16 PM, MKR wrote: 
> When we are at the receiving end of pain, then only it becomes real and 
> personal. Watching death and destruction from a distance has the disconnect. 
> The other factor that seems to play an important part is that most are so 
> self centered they do not think of others. 
> 
> One thing we can do is to treat every one with kindness and consideration 
> and try to bring joy everywhere we go. Personally speaking, I try to say a 
> few words to every one I meet, such as when I go shopping. 
> On Jul 5, 2011 9:58 PM, "John E. Mead"< jemead@lOaQwRsTt21xiMu3qtKnSbL5YCGEO4jUm8l5vIffCwfcnAbXMX1Qf1IQut40kP2MUq_vJBWHLBZDIUHANLJJ.yahoo.invalid > wrote: 
>> A question I would like answered, and maybe even understand, is WHY(?) 
>> are so many people so glad to see the destruction of the world, or all 
>> human life as we know it? 
>> 
>> People seem so eager/glad to see these great calamities/eschatologies 
>> fulfilled. It is apparently a great event to watch, and better 
>> entertainment than our current movies. Cool, it will actually be REAL 
>> rather than super-cool special-effects in 3-D. Can't wait. Tickets are 
>> cheap; free event you "have-to-see" to believe!! ("have-to-see" is not a 
>> choice. Belief will be guaranteed). 
>> 
>> I have lived through so many end-of-the worlds, just in my own 
>> life-time, it is rather boring. 
>> 
>> Theosophies, Integral Traditions, Spitituality, Sacred Science, the 
>> Future... they must have something better to offer, and even to do, 
>> than produce this stuff. 
>> 
>> How about computer-network/energy-grid disruptions from a Coronal Mass 
>> Ejection. 
>> A world-wide-war among all the Religions...(?) God, save our souls from 
>> the Righteous. 
>> 
>> Note: My grocery store updated there computer system last year. They 
>> actually had no way to order anything for the store without their new 
>> (flakey) computer system, literally. (BTW - connected to their Intranet 
>> via satellite). That rather bothered me. 
>> 
>> Anyway. Find some realistic things to worry about, but try to help fix 
>> them. Better yet, try living in the "Now". 
>> 
>> We are all in this together, today. 
>> I kind of thought that was somewhere in the 3 Objects.... forming a 
>> universal brotherhood or something. I missed the part about propagating 
>> fear and eschatologies. 
>> 
>> John E. M. 
>> 
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