Theos-Talk Archives (May 2011 Message tt00028)

I am not so sure Joaquim, as in his nde, he describes a non 3 dimensional 
existence.
Cass

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>From: jdmsoares <jdmsoares@hwM7Lr2Jv1eySw_wR3wJUCbmNU3CoAje2zEBWvXsvdlQSh7DmhzRaHBjfzzG7BtL2n6ock5yZkaabQ.yahoo.invalid>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thu, 5 May, 2011 8:31:47 AM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Theosophy, Carl Jung and the "Tibetan Book of the Dead"
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>Dear Sufilight, friends,
>
>Sufilight thanks.
>
>The works of Jung that you mentioned just prove that he doesn't know
>anything except the lower self. He shows an almost totally contempt for
>oriental philosophy, and many more things.
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>That is comprehensible, because Jung prefers to be attached to the
>materialistic point of view. Besides that, Jung makes constant use of
>deliberate ambiguity and a relativistic approach to the subjects.
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>So, as a student of theosophy I cannot see any philosophical value in
>the two works mentioned in the links you gave us.
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>More important, as shown in the text "Freud, Jung, And Ethics",
>Jung's ideas are in opposition to ethics. We know that Ethics are in
>the center of true Psychology.
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>We can read in the text:
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>"While Freud, though not a professional philosopher, approaches the
>problem from a psychological and philosophical angle as William James,
>Dewey, and Macmurray have done, Jung states in the beginning of his
>book:
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>`I restrict myself to the observation of phenomena and I refrain
>from any application of metaphysical or philosophical
>considerations.'
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>He then goes on to explain how, as a psychologist, he can analyze
>religion without application of philosophical considerations." [1]
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>Jung uses again the same approach in the mentioned works, supposedly
>about "Life after Death".
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>One of the Mahatmas taught:
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>"Exact experimental Science has nothing to do with morality, virtue,
>philanthropy, therefore can make no claim upon our help, until it blends
>itself with the metaphysics." [2]
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>Best regards, Joaquim
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>NOTES:
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>[1] Worth reading "Freud, Jung, And Ethics" at
>http://www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=173
><http://www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=173>   and 
>http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/08/freud-jung-and-ethics.html
><http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/08/freud-jung-and-ethics.html> 
>.
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>[2] Read at http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/mahatma_letters.htm
><http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/mahatma_letters.htm>
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>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M. Sufilight" <global-theosophy@...>
>wrote:
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>> Well, allright...here are a few words...to contemplate in a
>comparative study.
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>> C G. Jung (d. 1961) on the Law of Karma and Reincarnation:
>> LIfe After Death
>> http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/C.G._Jung_-_On_Life_After_Death.pdf
>>
>> Carl Jung's near-death experience
>> "The unconscious psyche believes in life after death"
>> http://www.near-death.com/jung.html
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>>
>> M. Sufilight
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>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: jdmsoares
>>   To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:17 AM
>>   Subject: theos-talk Theosophy, Carl Jung and the "Tibetan Book of
>the Dead"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Dear friends,
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>>   There are many students of theosophy who admire the thought of Carl
>>   Jung.
>>
>>   However, maybe most of them don't see that Jung ideas are contrary
>>   to Ethics, as Eric Fromm and others showed.
>>
>>   There is a most interesting article that brings even more evidences
>>   about the untheosophical ideais of Mr. Jung, and his relation with a
>>   Dugpa sect.
>>
>>   The text is published at our websites www.Esoteric-Philosophy.com
>>   <http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/> and www.TheosophyOnline.com
>>   <http://www.theosophyonline.com/> with the title:
>>
>>   THEOSOPHY AND THE "BARDO THODOL"
>>   Or Examining Some Affinities Between
>>   Carl G. Jung And a Certain Tibetan Sect
>>
>>   As it is written in the text:
>>
>>   "If is perhaps a challenging fact for students of theosophy in the
>21st
>>   century that a well-known thinker as Carl Jung was connected to the
>>   Ningmapa sect literature, as well as to their methods and occult
>>   inclinations. As we shall see, one of the main Ningma "best-selling"
>>   books - the so-called "Bardo Thodol" or "Tibetan Book of the Dead" -
>had
>>   a long- standing personal influence on Jung and received an
>enthusiastic
>>   public support from him."
>>
>>   Direct links to the text:
>>   www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/08/theosophy-and-bardo-thodol.html
>> 
><http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/08/theosophy-and-bardo-thodol.h\
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>>   tml> and http://www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=89
>>   <http://www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=89> .
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>>   Best regards, Joaquim
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