Theos-Talk Archives (March 2011 Message tt00157)

The lodge continues to be in good standing and is active with its programs.
The assets continue to belong to the lodge as it has been since 1935.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Cass Silva <silva_cass@H6Q8zYn3CiomjsNiZfmndjC6XyTLHW_Z3MNgsjt5bkzxlU42BR7Bfgjz6tD4ILNru5O-iJCA7M8E9xqG.yahoo.invalid> wrote:

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> Nice loophole to get assets one doesn't have to pay for.
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> Cass
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> --- On Tue, 22/3/11, MKR <mkr777@UsHgUBIaArfC1nF7Gu5OWBUl8wxGNUNHYf2BKmDleaUOxRd3gbSXFSSBwjIHEyHsocIOvToVRYaA2g.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
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> From: MKR <mkr777@UsHgUBIaArfC1nF7Gu5OWBUl8wxGNUNHYf2BKmDleaUOxRd3gbSXFSSBwjIHEyHsocIOvToVRYaA2g.yahoo.invalid>
> Subject: Re: theos-talk Orlando Theosophical Lodge Saga
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 12:35 PM
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> Orlando Lodge is chartered by TSA. TSA Board of Directors decided to cancel
> the charter and take over the assets of the lodge. Under the International
> Rules, the decision of the Section can be appealed to the International
> President. When Orlando lodge did that, the International President decided
> to attach the lodge to Adyar for a couple of years. Attaching a lodge
> directly to Adyar has happened before in the history of TS.
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> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Cass Silva <silva_cass@H6Q8zYn3CiomjsNiZfmndjC6XyTLHW_Z3MNgsjt5bkzxlU42BR7Bfgjz6tD4ILNru5O-iJCA7M8E9xqG.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
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> > Has Orlando had support from Adyar during these 76 years? If not, what
> > gives them the veto to sell off the farm?
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> > Cass
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> > --- On Tue, 22/3/11, MKR <mkr777@UsHgUBIaArfC1nF7Gu5OWBUl8wxGNUNHYf2BKmDleaUOxRd3gbSXFSSBwjIHEyHsocIOvToVRYaA2g.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
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> > From: MKR <mkr777@UsHgUBIaArfC1nF7Gu5OWBUl8wxGNUNHYf2BKmDleaUOxRd3gbSXFSSBwjIHEyHsocIOvToVRYaA2g.yahoo.invalid>
> > Subject: theos-talk Orlando Theosophical Lodge Saga
> > To: "theos-talk" <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Received: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 6:21 AM
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> > Orlando Lodge Update
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> > In the Spring 2011 Quest Journal of Theosophical Society in America, the
> > President of TSA writes:
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> > While at Adyar, I discussed the Orlando Lodge with Radha. At the
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> > recommendation of the Florida Federation Board, the national TSA Board
> > determined to close the Orlando Lodge last year and began the proceedings
> > to
> > do so because of the many documented complaints about their operations.
> The
> > national board had already sent the packet of documentation concerning
> the
> > issue to Radha on three different occasions, to no avail. Because of the
> > critical nature of the issue, our national Board has twice unanimously
> > petitioned Radha to allow closure of the Orlando Lodge rather than
> engaging
> > in the detrimental action of affiliating Orlando directly with Adyar. As
> > this difficulty has touched so many of our members, we are still hopeful
> of
> > a positive outcome.
> >
> > There are several issues surround the above.
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> > 1. Orlando Lodge is 76 years old and at a time of continued dwindling
> > membership and down sizing of lodges in big cities like Atlanta (whose
> > metropolitan population is 6 million) down sizing to Study Center (Lodge
> > requires 7 members and Study Center only 3 members), shutting down a
> lodge
> > is a very serious issue that should be clearly explained to TSA members
> > citing clear cut violations of the rules of TS and/or TSA.
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> > 2. The lodge is now directly attached to Adyar. No one is questioning the
> > authority of the International President in the decision to attach the
> > lodge
> > to Adyar.
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> > 3. The great take over interest the Board has taken seems to be mainly
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> > to valuable real estate and other assets of the lodge.
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> > 4. To date, neither the National President nor any of the Board Members
> > have
> > personally visited the lodge and did a first hand inquiry of the facts
> and
> > attempt to try to solve any problems and keep the lodge operating. On
> > serious matters, such as this, facts have to be determined first hand
> then
> > only one gets a true and complete picture of the situation which can lead
> > to
> > a solution to any problems that may exist. This brings to my mind, the
> > constant world-wide travels of Olcott to settle problems relating to TS.
> > One
> > has to just read his Old Diary Leaves.
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> > 5. When the Board took a decision to close the lodge, the matter ended up
> > in
> > the Florida Courts. There is no mention of this in the statement in
> Quest.
> > Litigation is not cheap and no one knows how much theosophical money has
> > already been wasted by both sides.
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> > 6. One wonders where does the Federation comes into the picture about
> > closing of any lodge. Usually, the Federation meets once a year and all
> the
> > day to day activities are carried on by the lodges. It is significant
> that
> > Florida Foundation seems to be the main party behind the attempt to shut
> > down the lodge. Are there any other unspoken reasons behind the episode?
> >
> > 7. It is claimed that the complaints have been documented. If so, why not
> > the Board disclose them to TSA membership.
> >
> > If there is a strong case, such transparency will help the credibility of
> > the Board. This is needed because lack of transparency in the past,
> > especially the super secret ill fated attempt to disenfranchise all
> members
> > in the election of International President three years ago which emanated
> > from Wheaton.
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> > Let us keep tuned for any further developments in the Orlando Saga.
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> > MKR
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