Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
Oct 15, 2010 08:05 AM
by Drpsionic
L. Ron stole from everyone. But I find it hilarious to think of the look
on crazy old Annie Besant's face if she were to look up from Avitchi and
see that the next Great World Teacher would be L. Ron Hubbard.
And never forget that beliefs thrive on persecution.
Chuck the Heretic
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In a message dated 10/14/2010 6:37:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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And who do you think Mr Hubbard plagariased? Blavatsky's cupboard!
Cass
>
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>Sent: Fri, 15 October, 2010 1:41:20 AM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
>
>
>It gets better. The whole Remote Viewing program and its subsequent
>spin-offs was based on Scientology.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>www.charlescosimano.com
>
>In a message dated 10/13/2010 7:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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>
>Cass, Hmmm, it is? Lol! I happened to be Google Earthing "Hollywood Blvd"
>in Hollywood California the other day looking to fing "Graumans Chinese
>Theatre" on Hollywood Blvd. As I was on "Street Views and proceeded up
>Hollywood Blvd I came to what once was the 12 story high Security Pacific
bank
>Building rising high into the sky there! But it was not a bank any more
gues
>what it was? It was the Hollywood Scientology Bldg and right next to it
was
>the L. Ron hubbard Museum. Now this sin't the only place in Hollywood
that
>is owned by the disintegrating organization but throughout much of
America
>they are found and I think if my memory is right they greatly out number
the
>enrollments of Theosophy lol! Not withstanding that they were banned in
>Germany and certtain other localities you are familar with lol! I dare
say
>they possess multiples of the cash Theosophy has having parted it from
>believers. Actually outside of Patanjali who described the Con ditioned
Mind of
>Mankind at length Scientology is the solitary modern resource to
describing
>it with new augmentations and accesses that are scientifically
repeatable.
>I am not an advocate just a realist . What is, is.That building was a
>surprise to me! My discernemnet of how Hubbard got what he got is that he
>managed to extraspolate the Yoga Sutra's teachig into a new modern
language in a
>
>technical manner and facilitated it's gnosis into a discipline using
>technology no yoga ever possesed the "truth machine". One of the largest
>deficits a yoga has against his success is his own interior lies to his
self due
>
>to the state of his seven fold economy and what holds it back, he found
the
>means to reveal the false fancy's, considertions, agreements , false
idea's
>that stopped so many from adeptship. In his Reactive Mind views he
>actually used the Socratic and Platonic Infrastructure of the Dialectic
Frame
>which _was taught by Socrates and Plato as the means to arrive to t he
"Truth". _
>Blavatsky never stopped saying "There is no Religion Higher than Truth!"
Am
>I correct about her?
>
>Nothing strikes more terror into the conditioned mind than Truth!
>
>regards,
>John
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:28:47 PM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
>
>As Scientology is being systematically being closed down and brought into
>global
>disrepute - are these new foundations, simply a restructuring of
>scientology?
>Any one wanting to know so much about me leaves me very suspicious about
>their
>motives. The spiritual path is not about our psychological nature so why
>the
>need for a psych evaluation?
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>Sent: Wed, 13 October, 2010 4:06:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
>>
>>
>>Theo,
>>Thank for your comments and reply. My view about Theosophy has been from
>time to
>>time posted here. I have the position that was inculcated by knowledge I
>got
>>when exposed to Scientilogical methods I was taugh such as Goals-
>Targeting -
>>Survey techniques. In order to know what is "Wanted - Desired- and
>Reached for"
>>one does a type of market survey to find out just what turns people on
>and off.
>>The result gives a pretty good indication of the present state of the
>>consciousness of a population such as the current young generation which
>is
>>removed from Blavatskys days by 119 years of" start - change - stop"
>process
>>which forms the evolution seen. The victorian age ended
>>
>>largely becuase of evolution of science and mans expanded understanding
>and
>>reason. People just do not reach out or desire the same things of
>Blavatsky's
>>time. In order to create a public that wants and desires what you offer
>you have
>>to offer what they actually will reach for and based on book sales
(which
>is one
>>good parameter to measure the current publics "reach" it seems to me to
>be
>>everything that Morten wants to erase from existance however fron people
>of my
>>age may see differently. Today they hold "Psychic and Paranormal Fairs"
>and "UFO
>>Conventions" in Europe, Asia, So, America, America, Canada, Australia
and
>gather
>>large public attendence by persons able and willing to pay some times
>$600 -700
>>USD to see videos, listen to presentations about Psychic, Paranormal,
>UFO, Life
>>after Death, NDE's, Past Life Recalls and a plethora of other subject
>matter.
>>This, for the last several decades has been a "Success Formula" that
even
>though
>>it does not represent a significant percentile of the general population
>it
>>easily gathers more people annually than the entire world wide
population
>of
>>Theosophical Societies in my view.
>>
>>
>>In the i970's I used to go to the Besant Lodge on Beachwood Dr. in
>Hollywood. On
>>what was called then the "Temple Hill "area. The directorvback then a
>Frank
>>Silberman. After entering the front vestibule one stepped into the book
>store
>>that had the primary Theosophical titles by Blavatsky, Olcutt and Judge
>etc. But
>>these volumes took only a little space of the total shelf space. The
rest
>was
>>occupied then like now by books on the above mentioned topics. The
reason
>for
>>that was that that is what sold! Lodges are significantly supported by
>book
>>sales income which also is part of the tithe sent to HDQTRS.
>>
>>
>>My view is Blavatsky's "Economy of the Being" , "The Seven Fold
>Constitution"
>>that defines that "gestalt" of each persons individual make up, and
which
>is the
>>determining operative make-up that causes people to "Reach" is not
>something any
>>one can postulate away, or evade the existence of. To my view it is a
>"senior"
>>operating contributor to what is "Acceptable and "Desired" by each
>persons
>>economy, moment to moment, through each life time that dictates what
>attracts
>>each of us to what we will gather to ourselves as fullfillment,
>gratification,
>>and expansiveness to our beingness and understanding according to our
>karmic
>>aggregates that are in manisfestation unique to our individualitys. If
>Theosophy
>>has a deficit in terms of what is "Wanted", "Desired", "Needed" I and
the
>others
>>such asa young generation will never be attracted no matter how much
>others wish
>>it to happen.
>>
>>
>>Mkr has spoken of the large attendance to Theosophy in India by Indians.
>But to
>>really know why it attracts them an in depth analytical measurement and
>survey
>>should be performed. I think the findings will be very specific to the
>Indian
>>culture self concepts which will be unique to them. Also there has been
>mention
>>of the large Brazilian interest
>>
>>as to Theosophy, i entertain a view that Brazil has a very large
interest
>in
>>"Spiritualism" a long established character in Brazil. There seems to be
>a large
>>following after the teachings Alan Cardec Mesmerism in Brazil both areas
>lend to
>>easy curiosity as regards Theosophy, Brazil has the "Mountain of the
>Magicians'
>>some wherethere but I have forgotten what Martin Leiderman told
>meppersonally in
>>1970's and I haven't been abel to find it otherwise. My point is today
>there are
>>yet certain "Cultures" that have populations that can be receptive in
>different
>>degree's than more western industrialized nations due to the
>"receptivity" of
>>the populace to the "Mysteries" composed of a multitude of unknowns to
>them. Not
>>everyone wants to be a buddhist or other type, "differentiation" is the
>modis
>>operandi and homogenaity is a pipe dream.
>>
>>
>>Some have mentioned lodges that have Teaching Courses all over the
world.
>Well
>>it takes considerable time spent when it is a in depth worthwhile
course,
>>usually with a course "Fee" that helps support the maintenance of the
>roof over
>>the head of the lodge itself an other expenses. Courses are worth while.
>But
>>time is not always found next to the whell of necessity of daily life
and
>work.
>>So many just will purchase books on subjects they value for personal
>reasons.
>>Online Blog and discussion groups can be a good experience as well as
>expansive
>>to friendship with other who have the same interests.
>>
>>
>>Today there can be "Personal Channels" created by individuals or
>Organizations
>>that have a wide character from mediated instructor ship or only
>documentarys
>>without personal exposures. I have seen a variety of them online. In
>China today
>>the Chinese User internet population is over 300 million individuals
>almost the
>>entire population of the USA. In china today there is a protacted
ongoing
>UFO
>>Flap that features videos and cell phone photos thown on nationa and
>local news
>>here in the USA. The Chinese have a large legacy of beliefs,
>superstitions,
>>curiositys etc, yet a brand new middle class has appeared that is
>transforming
>>the directions of minds there as has happened practically everywhere
else
>in
>>serial order on this planet over time. Hamlets Mill will grind those who
>persist
>>in being resistant to change to make flour of them.
>>
>>
>>What happened to the previous world and civilizations was "Start-
>Change-Stop"
>>we need to be able to see that when it is happening with awareness and
>conscious
>>truth. Then make the proper appropiate adaptions. The Sumer, Accadians,
>Hyksos,
>>Assyrians, Hittite, Lemurians, Altantians and all the rest became flour
>when
>>they failed to move in time with the wave of change, solve et coagula.
We
>>dissolve and appear a new having appropiateness and context as dictated
>by
>>evolutions of our beingness in keeping with the "Lords of Karma" on the
_>dynamic
>>scales of magnitudes, micro to macro, as Blavatsky spoke of as well as
>many
>>others past.
>>
>>
>>To me , it is not a question of "deviation" from a set program, but the
>Reality
>>and senior Nature of Life , that which is the All that we come with, and
>Al_l
>>that is About us, of we we are it's ray of expression. Once I and others
>were
>>instructed "Seek not of I ----- Seek rather the Energy of your own Being
>----
>>and the Space that is About you". We have our existance in the Ocean of
>Beauty a
>>la Proclus and Plotinus, we sail as sailors like the Argonauts pushed by
>the
>>waves of Life itself.
>>
>>
>>Regards to all,
>>John
>>
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>>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:20:01 PM
>>Subject: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
>>
>>Hi John, you know that I hold you in the highest of respects. And I am
>much
>>educated by your posts on Juan Moricz - you being my only, learned
source
>as to
>>that.
>>
>>
>>In regards to the url you cite, I am puzzled by the fact that theosophy
-
>at one
>>time at the forefront of human development - in the 21st century has
>dwindled to
>>a sorry state where it is seen as an, at most, curious superstition or
an
>>erroneous cultic belief system developing out of the reactionary forces
>to the
>>early industrialisation processes of western society (six years before
>"Isis
>>Unveiled" saw print the steam engine was 'discovered') - has not grasped
>this
>>unique era in embracing the various new communications platforms.
>>
>>
>>My estimate is that this is for a variety of reasons: fear and lack of
>>understanding of the new, lack of trust in a new generation, failure to
>>und_erstand evolutionary processes in reg_ards to the tension fields
>created by
>>adherence to dogma in the austere bodies of wisdom and the esoteric
>schools, and
>>utmost sloppiness in regards to heritage preservation and maintenance.
>>
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>Theo
>>
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>>> Theo,
>>> I wanted to give you a website link:
>>>
>>> Links to Theosophical Texts Online
>>>
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><<<
>>>
>>> You and others might find some unread worthy documents among the
links.
>What is
>>>your view of Juan Moric z ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>>
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