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Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled

Oct 15, 2010 08:05 AM
by Drpsionic

L. Ron stole from everyone.  But I find it hilarious to think of the  look 
on crazy old Annie Besant's face if she were to look up from Avitchi and  
see that the next Great World Teacher would be L. Ron Hubbard.
And never forget that beliefs thrive on persecution.
Chuck the Heretic  

In a message dated 10/14/2010 6:37:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, writes:

And who do you think Mr Hubbard plagariased?  Blavatsky's  cupboard!

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>Sent: Fri, 15 October, 2010  1:41:20 AM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis  Unveiled
>It gets better. The whole Remote  Viewing program and its subsequent 
>spin-offs was based on  Scientology.
>Chuck the  Heretic
>In a message  dated 10/13/2010 7:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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>Cass, Hmmm, it  is? Lol! I happened to be Google Earthing "Hollywood Blvd" 
>in  Hollywood California the other day looking to fing "Graumans Chinese  
>Theatre" on Hollywood Blvd. As I was on "Street Views and proceeded up  
>Hollywood Blvd I came to what once was the 12 story high Security  Pacific 
>Building rising high into the sky there! But it was not a  bank any more 
>what it was? It was the Hollywood Scientology Bldg  and right next to it 
>the L. Ron hubbard Museum. Now this sin't the  only place in Hollywood 
>is owned by the disintegrating  organization but throughout much of 
>they are found and I think  if my memory is right they greatly out number 
>enrollments of  Theosophy lol! Not withstanding that they were banned in 
>Germany and  certtain other localities you are familar with lol! I dare 
>they  possess multiples of the cash Theosophy has having parted it from  
>believers. Actually outside of Patanjali who described the Con  ditioned 
Mind of 

>Mankind at length Scientology is the solitary  modern resource to 
>it with new augmentations and accesses  that are scientifically 
>I am not an advocate just a  realist . What is, is.That building was a 
>surprise to me! My  discernemnet of how Hubbard got what he got is that he 
>managed to  extraspolate the Yoga Sutra's teachig into a new modern 
language in a  
>technical manner and facilitated it's gnosis into a discipline  using 
>technology no yoga ever possesed the "truth machine". One of the  largest 
>deficits a yoga has against his success is his own interior  lies to his 
self due 
>to the state of his seven fold economy  and what holds it back, he found 
>means to reveal the false  fancy's, considertions, agreements , false 
>that stopped so many  from adeptship. In his Reactive Mind views he 
>actually used the  Socratic and Platonic Infrastructure of the Dialectic 
>which _was  taught by Socrates and Plato as the means to arrive to t he 
"Truth". _ 

>Blavatsky never stopped saying "There is no Religion Higher than  Truth!" 
>I correct about her? 
>Nothing strikes more  terror into the conditioned mind than Truth! 
>----- Original Message----- 
>From: "Cass  Silva" <
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>Sent: Wednesday, October  13, 2010 4:28:47 PM 
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled  
>As Scientology is being systematically being closed down and  brought into 
>disrepute - are these new foundations,  simply a restructuring of 
>Any one wanting to know  so much about me leaves me very suspicious about 
>motives. The spiritual path is not about our psychological nature so  why 
>need for a psych evaluation? 
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>>Sent: Wed, 13 October,  2010 4:06:26 PM 
>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled  
>>Thank for your  comments and reply. My view about Theosophy has been from 
>time to  
>>time posted here. I have the position that was inculcated by  knowledge I 
>>when exposed to Scientilogical methods I  was taugh such as Goals- 
>Targeting - 
>>Survey techniques. In  order to know what is "Wanted - Desired- and 
>Reached for"  
>>one does a type of market survey to find out just what turns  people on 
>and off. 
>>The result gives a pretty good  indication of the present state of the 
>>consciousness of a  population such as the current young generation which 
>>removed from Blavatskys days by 119 years of" start - change -  stop" 
>>which forms the evolution seen. The  victorian age ended 
>>largely becuase of evolution of  science and mans expanded understanding 
>>reason. People  just do not reach out or desire the same things of 
>>time. In order to create a public that wants and desires what you  offer 
>you have 
>>to offer what they actually will reach for  and based on book sales 
>is one 
>>good parameter to  measure the current publics "reach" it seems to me to 
>>everything that Morten wants to erase from existance however fron  people 
>of my 
>>age may see differently. Today they hold  "Psychic and Paranormal Fairs" 
>and "UFO 
>>Conventions" in  Europe, Asia, So, America, America, Canada, Australia 
>>large public attendence by persons able and willing to pay some  times 
>$600 -700 
>>USD to see videos, listen to presentations  about Psychic, Paranormal, 
>UFO, Life 
>>after Death, NDE's,  Past Life Recalls and a plethora of other subject 
>>This, for the last several decades has been a "Success Formula"  that 
>>it does not represent a significant  percentile of the general population 
>>easily gathers  more people annually than the entire world wide 
>>Theosophical Societies in my view. 
>>In the i970's I used to go to the Besant Lodge on Beachwood Dr. in  
>Hollywood. On 
>>what was called then the "Temple Hill "area.  The directorvback then a 
>>Silberman. After entering  the front vestibule one stepped into the book 
>>that  had the primary Theosophical titles by Blavatsky, Olcutt and Judge  
>etc. But 
>>these volumes took only a little space of the  total shelf space. The 
>>occupied then like now by  books on the above mentioned topics. The 
>>that  was that that is what sold! Lodges are significantly supported by 
>>sales income which also is part of the tithe sent to HDQTRS.  
>>My view is Blavatsky's "Economy of the  Being" , "The Seven Fold 
>>that defines that  "gestalt" of each persons individual make up, and 
>is the  
>>determining operative make-up that causes people to "Reach" is not  
>something any 
>>one can postulate away, or evade the  existence of. To my view it is a 
>>operating  contributor to what is "Acceptable and "Desired" by each 
>>economy, moment to moment, through each life time that dictates  what 
>>each of us to what we will gather to  ourselves as fullfillment, 
>>and  expansiveness to our beingness and understanding according to our  
>>aggregates that are in manisfestation unique to our  individualitys. If 
>>has a deficit in terms of  what is "Wanted", "Desired", "Needed" I and 
>>such asa young generation will never be attracted no matter how  much 
>others wish 
>>it to happen. 
>>Mkr has spoken of the large attendance to Theosophy in India by  Indians. 
>But to 
>>really know why it attracts them an in  depth analytical measurement and 
>>should be  performed. I think the findings will be very specific to the 
>>culture self concepts which will be unique to them. Also there has  been 
>>of the large Brazilian interest 
>>as to Theosophy, i entertain a view that Brazil has a very large  
>>"Spiritualism" a long established character in  Brazil. There seems to be 
>a large 
>>following after the  teachings Alan Cardec Mesmerism in Brazil both areas 
>lend to  
>>easy curiosity as regards Theosophy, Brazil has the "Mountain of  the 
>>some wherethere but I have forgotten what  Martin Leiderman told 
>meppersonally in 
>>1970's and I  haven't been abel to find it otherwise. My point is today 
>there are  
>>yet certain "Cultures" that have populations that can be receptive  in 
>>degree's than more western industrialized  nations due to the 
>"receptivity" of 
>>the populace to the  "Mysteries" composed of a multitude of unknowns to 
>them. Not  
>>everyone wants to be a buddhist or other type, "differentiation"  is the 
>>operandi and homogenaity is a pipe dream.  
>>Some have mentioned lodges that have  Teaching Courses all over the 
>>it takes  considerable time spent when it is a in depth worthwhile 
>>usually with a course "Fee" that helps support the maintenance of  the 
>roof over 
>>the head of the lodge itself an other  expenses. Courses are worth while. 
>>time is not always  found next to the whell of necessity of daily life 
>>So many just will purchase books on subjects they value for  personal 
>>Online Blog and discussion groups can be  a good experience as well as 
>>to friendship with  other who have the same interests. 
>>Today  there can be "Personal Channels" created by individuals or  
>>that have a wide character from mediated  instructor ship or only 
>>without personal  exposures. I have seen a variety of them online. In 
>China today  
>>the Chinese User internet population is over 300 million  individuals 
>almost the 
>>entire population of the USA. In  china today there is a protacted 
>>Flap that  features videos and cell phone photos thown on nationa and 
>local news  
>>here in the USA. The Chinese have a large legacy of beliefs,  
>>curiositys etc, yet a brand new middle  class has appeared that is 
>>the directions of  minds there as has happened practically everywhere 
>>serial order on this planet over time. Hamlets Mill will grind  those who 
>>in being resistant to change to make  flour of them. 
>>What happened to the  previous world and civilizations was "Start- 
>>we need to be able to see that when it is happening with awareness  and 
>>truth. Then make the proper appropiate  adaptions. The Sumer, Accadians, 
>>Assyrians,  Hittite, Lemurians, Altantians and all the rest became flour 
>>they failed to move in time with the wave of change, solve et  coagula. 
>>dissolve and appear a new having appropiateness and  context as dictated 
>>evolutions of our beingness in  keeping with the "Lords of Karma" on the 
>>scales of  magnitudes, micro to macro, as Blavatsky spoke of as well as 
>>others past. 
>>To me , it is  not a question of "deviation" from a set program, but the 
>>and senior Nature of Life , that which is the All that we come  with, and 
>>that is About us, of we we are it's ray of  expression. Once I and others 
>>instructed "Seek not of  I ----- Seek rather the Energy of your own Being 
>>and  the Space that is About you". We have our existance in the Ocean of  
>Beauty a 
>>la Proclus and Plotinus, we sail as sailors like  the Argonauts pushed by 
>>waves of Life itself.  
>>Regards to all, 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
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>>Sent: Tuesday, October  12, 2010 4:20:01 PM 
>>Subject: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled  
>>Hi John, you know that I hold you in the highest of  respects. And I am 
>>educated by your posts on Juan  Moricz - you being my only, learned 
>as to 
>>In regards to the url you cite, I am  puzzled by the fact that theosophy 
>at one 
>>time at the  forefront of human development - in the 21st century has 
>dwindled to  
>>a sorry state where it is seen as an, at most, curious  superstition or 
>>erroneous cultic belief system developing out  of the reactionary forces 
>to the 
>>early industrialisation  processes of western society (six years before 
>>Unveiled" saw print the steam engine was 'discovered') - has not  grasped 
>>unique era in embracing the various new  communications platforms. 
>>My estimate is  that this is for a variety of reasons: fear and lack of  
>>understanding of the new, lack of trust in a new generation,  failure to 
>>und_erstand evolutionary processes in reg_ards to the  tension fields 
>created by 
>>adherence to dogma in the  austere bodies of wisdom and the esoteric 
>schools, and  
>>utmost sloppiness in regards to heritage preservation and  maintenance. 
>>Kind regards, 
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>>> Theo, 
>>> I wanted to give you  a website link: 
>>> Links to Theosophical Texts  Online 
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>>> You and others might find some unread worthy  documents among the 
>What is 
>>>your view of Juan  Moric z ? 
>>> Regards,  
>>> John 
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