Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
Oct 15, 2010 08:01 AM
by Drpsionic
What the Europeans do will, as always, not matter. Scientology is
flourishing in the US.
Chuck the Heretic
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In a message dated 10/14/2010 6:36:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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I don't know what is happening in your little corner of the world, but
Britain
and Australia are currently proposing legislation to remove Scientology as
a
charity/ religion and remove their tax free loophole. No doubt, Europe
will
shortly follow
>Cass
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>Sent: Fri, 15 October, 2010 1:36:33 AM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
>
>
>Scientology being closed down? What planet are you living on? It's still
>growing.
>
>In 64ce, no one would have bet much on the future of Christianity.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>_www.charlescosimano.com
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>In a message dated 10/13/2010 6:28:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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>
>As Scientology is being systematically being closed down and brought into
>global
>disrepute - are these new foundations, simply a restructuring of
>scientology?
>Any one wanting to know so much about me leaves me very suspicious about
>their
>motives. The spiritual path is not about our psychological nature so why
>the
>need for a psych evaluation?
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: "
>
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>>Sent: Wed, 13 October, 2010 4:06:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
>>
>>
>>Theo,
>>Thank for your comments and reply. My view about Theosophy has been from
>time to
>>time posted here. I have the position that was inculcated by knowledge I
>got
>>when exposed to Scientilogical methods I was taugh such as Goals-
>Targeting -
>>Survey techniques. In order to know what is "Wanted - Desired- and
>Reached for"
>>one does a type of market survey to find out just what turns people on
>and off.
>>The result gives a pretty good indication of the present state of the
>>consciousness of a population such as the current young generation which
>is
>>removed from Blavatskys days by 119 years of" start - change - stop"
>process
>>which forms the evolution seen. The victorian age ended
>>
>>largely becuase of evolution of science and mans expanded understanding
>and
>>reason. People just do not reach out or desire the same things of
>Blavatsky's
>>time. In order to create a public that wants and desires what you offer
>you have
>>to offer what they actually will reach for and based on book sales
(which
>is one
>>good parameter to measure the current publics "reach" it seems to me to
>be
>>everything that Morten wants to erase from existance however fron people
>of my
>>age may see differently. Today they hold "Psychic and Paranormal Fairs"
>and "UFO
>>Conventions" in Europe, Asia, So, America, America, Canada, Australia
and
>gather
>>large public attendence by persons able and willing to pay some times
>$600 -700
>>USD to see videos, listen to presentations about Psychic, Paranormal,
>UFO, Life
>>after Death, NDE's, Past Life Recalls and a plethora of other subject
>matter.
>>This, for the last several decades has been a "Success Formula" that
even
>though
>>it does not represent a significant percentile of the general population
>it
>>easily gathers more people annually than the entire world wide
population
>of
>>Theosophical Societies in my view.
>>
>>
>>In the i970's I used to go to the Besant Lodge on Beachwood Dr. in
>Hollywood. On
>>what was called then the "Temple Hill "area. The directorvback then a
>Frank
>>Silberman. After entering the front vestibule one stepped into the book
>store
>>that had the primary Theosophical titles by Blavatsky, Olcutt and Judge
>etc. But
>>these volumes took only a little space of the total shelf space. The
rest
>was
>>occupied then like now by books on the above mentioned topics. The
reason
>for
>>that was that that is what sold! Lodges are significantly supported by
>book
>>sales income which also is part of the tithe sent to HDQTRS.
>>
>>
>>My view is Blavatsky's "Economy of the Being" , "The Seven Fold
>Constitution"
>>that defines that "gestalt" of each persons individual make up, and
which
>is the
>>determining operative make-up that causes people to "Reach" is not
>something any
>>one can postulate away, or evade the existence of. To my view it is a
>"senior"
>>operating contributor to what is "Acceptable and "Desired" by each
>persons
>>economy, moment to moment, through each life time that dictates what
>attracts
>>each of us to what we will gather to ourselves as fullfillment,
>gratification,
>>and expansiveness to our beingness and understanding according to our
>karmic
>>aggregates that are in manisfestation unique to our individualitys. If
>Theosophy
>>has a deficit in terms of what is "Wanted", "Desired", "Needed" I and
the
>others
>>such asa young generation will never be attracted no matter how much
>others wish
>>it to happen.
>>
>>
>>Mkr has spoken of the large attendance to Theosophy in India by Indians.
>But to
>>really know why it attracts them an in depth analytical measurement and
>survey
>>should be performed. I think the findings will be very specific to the
>Indian
>>culture self concepts which will be unique to them. Also there has been
>mention
>>of the large Brazilian interest
>>
>>as to Theosophy, i entertain a view that Brazil has a very large
interest
>in
>>"Spiritualism" a long established character in Brazil. There seems to be
>a large
>>following after the teachings Alan Cardec Mesmerism in Brazil both areas
>lend to
>>easy curiosity as regards Theosophy, Brazil has the "Mountain of the
>Magicians'
>>some wherethere but I have forgotten what Martin Leiderman told
>meppersonally in
>>1970's and I haven't been abel to find it otherwise. My point is today
>there are
>>yet certain "Cultures" that have populations that can be receptive in
>different
>>degree's than more western industrialized nations due to the
>"receptivity" of
>>the populace to the "Mysteries" composed of a multitude of unknowns to
>them. Not
>>everyone wants to be a buddhist or other type, "differentiation" is the
>modis
>>operandi and homogenaity is a pipe dream.
>>
>>
>>Some have mentioned lodges that have Teaching Courses all over the
world.
>Well
>>it takes considerable time spent when it is a in depth worthwhile
course,
>>usually with a course "Fee" that helps support the maintenance of the
>roof over
>>the head of the lodge itself an other expenses. Courses are worth while.
>But
>>time is not always found next to the whell of necessity of daily life
and
>work.
>>So many just will purchase books on subjects they value for personal
>reasons.
>>Online Blog and discussion groups can be a good experience as well as
>expansive
>>to friendship with other who have the same interests.
>>
>>
>>Today there can be "Personal Channels" created by individuals or
>Organizations
>>that have a wide character from mediated instructor ship or only
>documentarys
>>without personal exposures. I have seen a variety of them online. In
>China today
>>the Chinese User internet population is over 300 million individuals
>almost the
>>entire population of the USA. In china today there is a protacted
ongoing
>UFO
>>Flap that features videos and cell phone photos thown on nationa and
>local news
>>here in the USA. The Chinese have a large legacy of beliefs,
>superstitions,
>>curiositys etc, yet a brand new middle class has appeared that is
>transforming
>>the directions of minds there as has happened practically everywhere
else
>in
>>serial order on this planet over time. Hamlets Mill will grind those who
>persist
>>in being resistant to change to make flour of them.
>>
>>
>>What happened to the previous world and civilizations was "Start-
>Change-Stop"
>>we need to be able to see that when it is happening with awareness and
>conscious
>>truth. Then make the proper appropiate adaptions. The Sumer, Accadians,
>Hyksos,
>>Assyrians, Hittite, Lemurians, Altantians and all the rest became flour
>when
>>they failed to move in time with the wave of change, solve et coagula.
We
>>dissolve and appear a new having appropiateness and context as dictated
>by
>>evolutions of our beingness in keeping with the "Lords of Karma" on the
>dynamic
>>scal_es of magnitudes, micro to macro, as Blavatsky spoke of as well as
>many
>>others past.
>>
>>
>>To me , it is not a question of "deviation" from a set program, but the
>Reality
>>and senior Nature of Life , that which is the All that we come with, and
>All
>>that is About _us, of we we are it's ray of expression. Once I and
others
>were
>>instructed "Seek not of I ----- Seek rather the Energy of your own Being
>----
>>and the Space that is About you". We have our existance in the Ocean of
>Beauty a
>>la Proclus and Plotinus, we sail as sailors like the Argonauts pushed by
>the
>>waves of Life itself.
>>
>>
>>Regards to all,
>>John
>>
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>>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:20:01 PM
>>Subject: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled
>>
>>Hi John, you know that I hold you in the highest of respects. And I am
>much
>>educated by your posts on Juan Moricz - you being my only, learned
source
>as to
>>that.
>>
>>
>>In regards to the url you cite, I am puzzled by the fact that theosophy
-
>at one
>>time at the forefront of human development - in the 21st century has
>dwindled to
>>a sorry state where it is seen as an, at most, curious superstition or
an
>>erroneous cultic belief system developing out of the reactionary forces
>to the
>>early industrialisation processes of western society (six years before
>"Isis
>>Unveiled" saw print the steam engine was 'discovered') - has not grasped
>this
>>unique era in embracing the various new communications platforms.
>>
>>
>>My estimate is that this is for a variety of reasons: fear and lack of
>>understanding of the new, lack of trust in a new generation, failure to
>>understa_nd evolutionary processes in regards _to the tension fields
>created by
>>adherence to dogma in the austere bodies of wisdom and the esoteric
>schools, and
>>utmost sloppiness in regards to heritage preservation and maintenance.
>>
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>Theo
>>
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>>> Theo,
>>> I wanted to give you a website link:
>>>
>>> Links to Theosophical Texts Online
>>>
>>> >>> _ (_ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/)
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>
><<<
>>>
>>> You and others might find some unread worthy documents among the
links.
>What is
>>>your view of Juan Moric z ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>>
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