Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Jan 24, 2010 07:59 AM
by Martin
Morten, you are missing the point...sure money needs administering, but for who? The Cause or the family/power/greed thingy...Preethi was right in saying organizations have become obsolete, since corruption is a big dog's ear in the book of such organizations. I do not know Radha, I only met her once and seen some video's of her. Even if she would serve her family, I wouldn't judge her. I myself am the only one to judge always by myself and every human should be judging him/herself alone as well...
So for Preethi, I would simply say goodbye to the current TS, to MKR I would say that karma is a knife never to be resisted, since karma only cuts mud...that mud everyone is made off....
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From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 4:43:19 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Is it "taking money from others"?
Or rather "administering money given by others" because one was elected to administrate them?
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Well if any money is raised to serve a common goal and as such spent on it, I see no crime...however when I see people live on taking money from others in disguise to serve a common goal, that is theft.
In old Pythagorean Society, only people not dependent on money, power or family were allowed in the circle of 100 to form a counsel to rule Greece by unanymous decision...
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From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 4:29:25 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Agreed.
Let us have som clear well-documented proof of this view given by you Preethi.
----- Original Message -----
From: MKR
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
I think your calling Radhaji a thief is crossing the line for any
theosophist. You owe an unconditional apology.
As a theosophist, I would never all another human being a thief.
The ball is now in your court.
MKR
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:48 AM, preethi muthiah
<seeker_preethi@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
> Dear MKR,
>
> I would just like to point out to you that I attended the Convention as
> every member's right to do so. The Administration at Adyar was definitely
> NOT doing me a favour.
>
> The issues I have brought up, by the way, are issues that the founders
> would themselves raise, had they been alive. Neither of our founders were in
> favour of corruption, and it did not matter to them at what level these were
> practised. Corruption is corruption and it is an evil that must be rooted
> out. It is indeed sad to see that it exists in the TS, the founders of which
> are insulted daily by the current administration at Adyar, who instead of
> rooting it out, endorse it all because it is practised by the relatives of
> the President.
>
> Also, Preethi was not allowed to stay on campus with her mother, Mrs Radha
> Muthiah, who still works at the TS, Adyar. And though Preethi was allowed to
> visit her mother, in the future, even that permission has been taken away.
>
> You must read the Mahatma's Letters carefully, MKR, and you will find out
> that with a spiritual aspirant, every bad deed wipes out all the good ones.
> So, even if you want to be proud of Mrs Burnier allowing a member of the TS
> like Preethi Muthiah to attend the Convention, which by the way was Preethi
> Muthiah's right, you cannot run away from the fact that since Mrs Burnier
> did not allow me to stay with my mother, so the deed you mentioned gets
> wiped out and the balance is tilted towards the misdeeds...heavily indeed.
>
> It is quite possible that Mrs Radha Burnier will now try to prevent Preethi
> from being a member of the TS...but that is her headache...not mine...My
> commitment to the Theosophical Cause remains unhindered, for I choose it to
> be so. She cannot own the Masters of the Wisdom nor the Wisdom Teachings.
> She cannot even actually own the Adyar Estate for it is not her property. If
> you will see the rules, you will realize that Adyar actually belongs to all
> the members of the TS, for out of our annual membership fee, a certain
> amount goes towards the upkeep and maintenance of the Adyar International
> Headquarters.
>
> In effect, MKR, Mrs Radha Burnier in addition to all her other misdeeds of
> corruption etc. is also today party to the crime of keeping a member of the
> TS from her right to enter and live on the international HQ of the TS,
> Adyar, for the maintenance and upkeep of which the member pays annually a
> certain fee. By that account, MKR, Mrs Burnier is a thief. I hope that is
> not a matter of pride with you.
>
> Fraternally
>
> Preethi
>
> --- On Sat, 23/1/10, MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
> To: "theos-talk" <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com<theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 2:14 AM
>
>
>
>
> When I suggested before the convention, if some one attending the
> convention
>
> could report on the convention on Internet, I was thinking about a blog
> like
>
> reporting, which in a journalistic point, be entertaining and informative.
> I
>
> have seen in conventions, each day one or two page bulletin is issued
>
> covering the dayâs summary. It is very disappointing that in this day and
>
> age of computers and wifi, something that is easy to do was not done by any
>
> one. By the way, Chennai is a hub of many computer establishments and so
>
> there are ample wifi resources if anyone wanted to post anything on
>
> Internet. I do not know what is happening in various countries when they
>
> have their annual conventions.
>
> It is heartening to see Preethi was allowed to attend the convention, as a
>
> member, in spite of the various issues she had raised in the past and had
> to
>
> move out of the Adyar Estate. This speaks very highly of the Adyar
>
> administration and all of us should be proud of it. I doubt any other
>
> organization would have allowed her to attend a convention.
>
> MKR
>
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> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
> http://in.yahoo.com/
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