Theos-Talk Archives (December 2009 Message tt00006)

Ah, you changed your name in spirituality, so what is a name.?

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Spirituality" <mail@...> wrote:
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> I just meant that a well educated woman over 30 with a career of her own would not be expected to change her name on marriage (in The Netherlands). In fact, studies show that those who don't change their names are on average more successful in their careers. 
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> It's at the very least a branding thing: keeping the name you were known to have started out your career with just helps avoid confusion. My mother changed her professional name back to her maiden name, without divorcing my father, a few years ago. I think out of feminist ideals. Personally I would not think of changing my name on marriage. 
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> I've since been informed that this is a VERY Dutch perspective, not relevant for Brazil. 
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> I'm 35 - is that young even on an online site like this one? 
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> Katinka
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info. As I recall, you mentioned about Jan Kind several
> > months ago when the website was taken down after discovery.
> > 
> > Your comment about your age, most here on the list are generally older than
> > you are!! You are young.
> > 
> > MKR
> > 
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Spirituality <mail@>wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know who S.T. Adelante is.
> > >
> > > I can tell you that Jan Kind is married to Terezinha. She took his name on
> > > their marriage, even though she is quite a professional and older than I am.
> > > He is Dutch. She is Brazilian. They married only a few years ago. I would
> > > guess 8 or 9 years ago.
> > >
> > > Katinka
> > >
> > > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/
> > > http://www.overpeinzende.nl/
> > > http://www.allconsidering.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. When the website first came up, it was not public and when
> > > > someone found out about it, it was taken down. It was at a time
> > > > following the last International Election. It got resurrected
> > > > subsequently.
> > > >
> > > > MKR
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@> wrote:
> > > > > In ULT publications, and lectures, it's a policy not to sign the
> > > > > articles or give out the names of the lecturers -- since theosophy
> > > > > teachings must stand on their own, and there should be no reliance on
> > > > > the authority, reputation or expertise of the writer/speaker. Ã? If the
> > >
> > > > > unknown writer's or lecturer's identity is a mystery, then his
> > > > > writings or talks can be evaluated on its content alone, not on his
> > > > > name or reputation.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the case of Adelante, we might assume he may be following those
> > > > > rules and remaining anonymous -- which is in total accord with HPB's
> > > > > teachings, and was used by William Q. Judge in many of his stories,
> > > > > lectures and articles. Ã? His real name only appeared on such works
> > >
> > > > > after he died, when students published his writings and lectures.
> > > > > Although, he did use his name on most of his books.
> > > > >
> > > > > Judging by his postings, it's apparent that S.T. Adelante is a
> > > > > student of HPB, and respects those closest to her original teachings
> > > > > and foundation of the original TS in America.
> > > > >
> > > > > LHM.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 22, 2009, at 11/22/092:26 AM, MKR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Who is this mysterious S T Adelante?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Some months ago, I received a email from one S T Adelante who is the
> > > > >> administrator of a quaint website which is supposed to address
> > > > >> theosophy�s future. In response I sent a email part of which I
> > > quote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ââ?¬Å"I am not familiar with your name. I see you have an UK email
> > > address
> > >
> > > > >> and I suppose you are from that region. Which Lodge do you belong to
> > > > >> and what are your specific areas of interest? Do you hold any offices
> > > > >> in the TS?â�
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Adelante has not responded till today. I just read in a short article
> > > > >> on Internet regarding this person�s identity. The article says
> > > ââ?¬Å"The
> > >
> > > > >> persons in charge of Theosophy Forward do not say in their website who
> > > > >> they are, contrary to what is usual. The website manager uses the
> > > > >> pseudonym ââ?¬Å"ST Adelanteââ?¬ , and when some people asked for the
> > > identity
> > > > >> of the responsible of the website, the answer was: ââ?¬Å"It is not
> > > > >> necessary to know the people who are in chargeââ?¬ ââ?¬Å"ââ?¬ .
> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This is really strange coming from anyone interested in theosophy. The
> > > > >> number of active theosophists worldwide is quite minuscule. Hence it
> > > > >> is impossible to hide one�s identity unless they use a pseudonym. In
> > >
> > > > >> the Internet forums, in the past, some theosophists have used
> > > > >> pseudonyms to avoid taking personal responsibility for their
> > > > >> statements in Internet. But, in time, their identities were discovered
> > > > >> to their public embarrassment.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I did some research about the website. It is registered with one Hans
> > > > >> Kind of Kind Internet Services in Netherland as the administrative
> > > > >> contact. Late last year, I got a confirmation that one Jan Nicolaas
> > > > >> Kind was involved in it. Googling Kind and theosophy, one comes across
> > > > >> Terezinha Franca Kind who is a General Council member and one of the
> > > > >> nominators of John Algeo in the last Presidential Election. It is my
> > > > >> understanding that he and Terezinha are related.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The mystery is deepening. We do not know if Adelante is the pseudonym
> > > > >> of Jan or Terezinha or that of some one else who dares not put his/her
> > > > >> own real name. It is not uncommon for some people to protect their
> > > > >> good name to operate either under a pseudonym or use others as a
> > > > >> front. Any way one day truth will come out and then we can all come to
> > > > >> our own conclusions.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyone knows more about this mysterious Adelante???
> > > > >>
> > > > >> MKR
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is no religion higher than truth
> > > > >>
> > > > >> visit theosophy.net
> > > > >>
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